On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Bryan Manske <br...@manske.org> wrote:

> 
> And is there any documentation on network isolation and GRE versus SST,


STT isolation really means that you are using the NICIRA NVP system which is 
proprietary. So if you did not buy nicira, then the STT isolation method is of 
no use to you.
GRE is the native controller in cloudstack, it's only documented on the wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/OVS+Tunnel+Manager+for+CloudStack
However in master it is supported for both XS and KVM.




> et cetera, when creating a zone within CloudStack?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Quoting Bryan Manske <br...@manske.org>:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I'm still hung up on network issues with VMs on CloudStack hosts not talking
>> to the network.  I'm currently looking at OpenVSwitch.  Maybe the answer
>> lies there.  If anyone has any ideas I would be most appreciative.
>> 
>> I've decided to provide a link(s) (same content, 3 different formats) to my
>> CS setup notes so that others can follow along.  Please keep in mind that
>> this
>> is not quite a pedagogical list of "do this, then do this" when trying to
>> install CloudStack but that's what I'm aiming for.  These are basically my
>> own adjustments to the documentation for 4.2.0 as I've been building it.
>> I've also collected and listed the relevant links where I could.  I figure it
>> might help someone else out along the way....
>> 
>> 
>> http://mail.manske.org/CS.Setup.Notes.txt
>> http://mail.manske.org/CS.Setup.Notes.odt
>> http://mail.manske.org/CS.Setup.Notes.pdf
>> 
>> Comments are always welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Bryan Manske
>> 
>> 
>> Quoting Bryan Manske <br...@manske.org>:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> (This is an update on my ongoing network issues within CloudStack 4.2.0.
>>> Please read the original messages below for more information.)
>>> 
>>> I've configured a network offering with no services this time, no virtual
>>> router, no DNS or DCHP, just a live public IP network and default gateway.
>>> 
>>> A VM running on blade 1 (configured within CloudStack) can ping another VM
>>> running on blade 1 but can't see VMs running on blade 2.  Nor can it see
>>> the default gateway or other XenCenter-configured VMs running on that
>> network
>>> segment.  And VMs running on blade 2 can ping each other but can't ping VMs
>>> running on blade 1, the default gateway, et cetera.
>>> 
>>> A VM configured within XenCenter on blade 1 or 2 using the "cloud-public"
>>> labeled ethernet interface can see physical machines, the default gateway,
>>> and other XenCenter VMs configured on other hosts with or without VLAN
>>> configurations running on their network interfaces.  (The VLAN configs
>>> didn't make any difference to speak of but, yes, I did verify that VLANs
>>> were supported by the physical interface type, the kernel supported them,
>>> and the interface was present and marked as "up".)  I've also verified the
>>> routers and switches for proper VLAN configs.  IPTables have also been
>>> disabled.  And the CloudStack 4.2.0 VMs are the only machines that can't
>>> talk on the public network.
>>> 
>>> I don't think it's a tagged versus untagged VLAN issue.  And I've verified
>>> that my two starter blades are configured and connected to both public and
>>> private networks correctly.  And the public IPs for the CloudStack System
>>> VMs work correctly.  I might have a network offering issue or a tagging
>>> issue somewhere but this goes right back to CloudStack and probably
>> something
>>> I've missed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to:
>>> 
>> 
> http://blog.remibergsma.com/2012/08/30/going-beyond-cloudstack-advanced-networking-how-i-replaced-the-virtual-router-with-my-own-physical-linux-router/
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> http://blog.remibergsma.com/2012/03/10/howto-create-a-network-in-cloudstack-without-a-virtual-router/
>>> 
>>> But I'm still non-functional and confused as to what I'm missing in the
>>> CloudStack networking department.  Can anyone offer up more links or
>>> advice please?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Bryan Manske
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quoting Bryan Manske <br...@manske.org>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sanjeev,
>>>> 
>>>> I followed a YouTube video explanation and did specify the tags
>>>> "cloud-public"
>>>> to the guest and public networks - and "cloud-private" to the management
>>>> network.  The "public" IPs work fine for things like SSVM and Console
>> Proxy
>>>> VM,
>>>> hence my confusion.  I also used the "cloud-public" tag in two simple
>>>> network service offerings, one with no services and one with just DSN,
>>> DHCP,
>>>> and userdata.  No firewalls or security groups and default egress policy
>>>> set to "allow", although I'm not sure it was needed there.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Bryan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Sanjeev Neelarapu <sanjeev.neelar...@citrix.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bryan Manske,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you specify the tags cloud-public and cloud-private as traffic
>> lables
>>>> for
>>>>> public and private trafifics in the physical network ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Sanjeev
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bryan Manske [mailto:br...@manske.org]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:30 AM
>>>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Public IPs on Guest VMs within CloudStack 4.2.0
>>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm still having issues with my CloudStack instances seeing the outside
>>>>> network and vice versa.  I've verified that other non-CloudStack VMs in
>>> the
>>>>> same IP subnet can see the default gateway and each other but they
>> can't
>>>> see
>>>>> the CloudStack instances.  The CloudStack instances can ping the VR but
>>> not
>>>>> the default gateway or any other non-CS VMs.  I'm using Xen Server 6.2
>> as
>>>> the
>>>>> only hypervisor for the moment and have set the network interface tags
>>>>> (cloud-public and cloud-private) with "xe network-param-set
>>>>> name-label=cloud-public uuid=<interface-uuid>" and "xe
>>>>> network-
>>>>> list" looks correct.  Am I missing tags in the network offering or
>>>> somewhere
>>>>> else?  I can't imagine that the CS VR would want to be the default
>>> gateway
>>>>> itself but I suppose its possible.  I've even been looking at VLANs
>>> (tagged
>>>>> versus untagged) at my network edge with no luck.
>>>>> "xe-switch-network-backend" is set to bridged so maybe its an
>> openvswitch
>>>>> issue.  Big sigh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've debugged as far as I can and need a few suggestions on where to
>> look
>>>>> next.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bryan Manske
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quoting Bryan Manske <br...@manske.org>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now I'm curious about public IPs on Guest VMs within CloudStack
>> 4.2.0.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have one IPv4 /27 for Public IPs and that's working fine.  Now what
>>>>>> I want to do is assign a live IP address from another /27 to a Guest
>>>>>> VM, which appears to work but can't actually touch the default
>> gateway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So here's the rub: The default gateway is actually provided as a
>>>>>> virtual IP on two VRRP nodes (for A/B redundancy) by my upstream
>>>>>> provider.  I can ping the two VRRP routers, I can see the VM has the
>>>>>> proper IP address, netmask, and default gateway; and I can configure
>>>>>> the VM with a proper IP config which never finds the default gateway
>>>>>> IP.  The arp cache sees the local MAC address and incomplete for the
>>>>> gateway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So now I'm thinking; according to cloudstack, is the default gateway
>>>>>> plumbed on a virtual router?  If so, how does THAT route out to the
>>>> world?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also have a /64 of IPv6 space, /96 of which I have configured in a
>>>>>> network offering which has the same upstream infrastructure
>> situation.
>>>>>> Same lack of functionality there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So how do I configure my Guest real IP netblocks?  Is it okay to be
>>>>>> looking for a default gateway IP on a my provider's core router or do
>>>>>> I need to have them statically route that netblock to something like
>>>>>> the cloudstack management host?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course I could also have the network offering wrong or incomplete.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any thoughts or pointers to documentation would be appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can tell I'm making progress because I keep dealing with
>>>>>> progressively higher level errors. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bryan Manske
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> -- Monty "xiphmont" Montgomery - Xiph Foundation, on the Ogg format
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> "Earnest falsehoods left unchallenged risk being accepted as fact."
>>>>> -- Monty "xiphmont" Montgomery - Xiph Foundation, on the Ogg format
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>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> "Earnest falsehoods left unchallenged risk being accepted as fact."
>>>> -- Monty "xiphmont" Montgomery - Xiph Foundation, on the Ogg format
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>>> 
>>> ---
>>> "Earnest falsehoods left unchallenged risk being accepted as fact."
>>> -- Monty "xiphmont" Montgomery - Xiph Foundation, on the Ogg format
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>> "Earnest falsehoods left unchallenged risk being accepted as fact."
>> -- Monty "xiphmont" Montgomery - Xiph Foundation, on the Ogg format
>> ---
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> "Earnest falsehoods left unchallenged risk being accepted as fact."
> -- Monty "xiphmont" Montgomery - Xiph Foundation, on the Ogg format
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