Hi I also disagree completely with this thread having also checked out and installed Cloudstack competitors I found cloudstack probably the easiest and stablest to get running. I come from a programming not infrastructure backdrop and as pointed out previously implementing a private cloud is not easy, but we managed to setup up for first Cloudstack cluster with 3 servers in under one day's effort, the documentation provided was sufficient and was adequate for us to complete the task.
I agree you with others you going to need to be more informative here on your problems as I have always found the community responsive and excellent to deal with. Kind regards Noel On 17 November 2014 15:05, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote: > From my perspective there are two issues being raised in this thread. > > 1. The original poster didn't actually ask a question, and despite requests > for more information, nothing which would allow us to help was > forthcoming. We can't fix that which we don't know to be broken, and as > we're all learning and building our respective experience can't hope to > mirror that of anyone else. > > 2. CloudStack is like every piece of software I've ever worked with; it has > a learning curve. Cloud in general forces you to rethink your paradigms, > and for me building my first CloudStack cloud took six weeks of unlearning > what I thought "best practice". Not everything I had to "unlearn" was > CloudStack; some was just bad thinking called "best practice". There's > lots of information out there, but a learning curve definitely exists, and > even today years after that first experience I continue to learn new things > about CloudStack. > > To Mohammad, I offer this suggestion. You've engaged with this community, > but specifics are lacking. It isn't reasonable for the community to offer > assistance without knowing what is troubling you. Expectations are an > important part of that, and we don't know what yours were, only that you're > unhappy. > > Sandeep has raised specific issues, and I hope they were captured in Jira ( > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK). If they weren't then > there is a very real possibility they won't be addressed until someone > either reports it, or decides to directly fix it. I know I'm guilty of not > putting Jira reports in, and I suspect I'm not alone. We all have the > power to complain, but we also have the power to help fix an issue by > taking a few extra minutes to just report the issue, and reporting on a > mailing list doesn't count. > > Sorry for getting on my soap box, but I figured this thread had a good > chance of showing up in some index in the future and that I had an > opportunity to give a bit of guidance. Hopefully I've not overstepped. > > -tim > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, sandeep khandekar < > cloudstack.sand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I agree with him, it wastes time, but at the same time you are gaining > > knowledge. > > > > If the documentation was done, he would not have faced this many > problems. > > > > Single node setup: > > You never told why on restart/shutdown, you loose your secondary > > storage(NFS). - May be we need to disable swap. Still I dont know the > > answer. > > > > Multi-node setup > > Why I cant view my instance. Everything was installed properly, I > connected > > to management server, logged in, Ubuntu instance was successfully setup, > > but I was unable to view it. It showed an error, I forgot the error. why? > > > > Devloper cloudstack > > Problems with devcloud in devlopment environment. > > devcloud2 never works - then why you mention in your books, links and > docs, > > why dont you refer to devcloud4 in which many changes are done daily. > > Sometimes user gets broken devcloud4, and they get freaked out. > > > > Its not as simple as Vagrant up and vagrant halt. > > > > Sorry I learnt a lot, but we should agree with him, as a starter it took > 9 > > months still the job is unfinished. Stopped it, because I freaked out, > and > > I am taking rest, will be back soon. > > > > Dont think it is waste of time speaking, many people are not speaking > > because, they are thinking, in future they may not get the answers for > > their queries. > > > > Cloudstack we love it, but we dont know how to work with it, we are > > learining, and we will be masters soon. > > > > Many people help us here on this group. That is the biggest achievement > of > > these group, but you dont reveal the real recipe because you may loose > > bussiness. > > > > This are my views and I dont mean to hurt anyone in anyway. > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Francois Gaudreault < > > fgaudrea...@cloudops.com> wrote: > > > > > One thing I agree for sure, the thread title is right, that discussion > is > > > starting to be a waste of time :) (although very entertaining) > > > > > > FG > > > > > > > > > On 2014-11-17 4:36 AM, sebgoa wrote: > > > > > >> On Nov 15, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Mohammad Mahdi Raja <mr...@shirazu.ac.ir > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Thanks for your answers, > > >>> > > >>> I installed different version on different infrastructure during the > > >>> time. It is somehow much more unstable that other competitors. Many > > >>> non-documented issues and many unpredictable problems. I know that we > > are > > >>> all here to help each others to feel good about it, but I think we > are > > >>> wasting our times on solving issues instead of doing business ! > > >>> > > >>> Any one disagrees ? > > >>> > > >>> Yes, I do, I 100% disagree. > > >> > > >> Just buy my book and you will be enlightened: > > >> > > >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920034377.do > > >> > > >> Ps: slighlty sarcastic answer :) enjoy > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 12:33 PM, Osay Osman Yuuni <oyu...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi Mohammed, > > >>>> I'd be interested to know why you think Cloudstack is waiting our > > >>>> time? Do > > >>>> you have any specific issues that need addressing that you could > not? > > >>>> By > > >>>> Cloudstack who do you actually mean? The contributors, users, > > >>>> governance? > > >>>> Unless you're able to tell us what makes you think Cloudstack is > > wasting > > >>>> our times I'm afraid I don't see how we can agree with you. > > >>>> > > >>>> Osay > > >>>> > > >>>> On 10 November 2014 10:54, Vihar <vih1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Was your questions not answered? Or you have issues with setting up > > >>>>> cloudstack? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Regards > > >>>>> Vihar K > > >>>>> On Nov 10, 2014 2:19 PM, "Erik Weber" <terbol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mohammad Mahdi Raja < > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> mr...@shirazu.ac.ir> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ​Dear All, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Does every one have the sense that CloudStack is wasting our > times > > ? > > >>>>>>> Unfortunately I think so. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> It's probably easier to answer your feelings if you describe a > bit > > >>>>>> more > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> why > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> you're feeling that way. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Why is CloudStack wasting your time? How can it be improved to not > > >>>>>> waste > > >>>>>> your time? etc. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Erik > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > > > > > -- > > > Francois Gaudreault > > > Gestionnaire de Produit | Product Manager - Cloud Platform & Services > > > t:514-629-6775 > > > > > > CloudOps Votre partenaire infonuagique | Cloud Solutions Experts > > > 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Quebec | H3J 1S6 > > > w: cloudops.com | tw: @CloudOps_ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > SANDEEP KHANDEKAR > > Assistant Professor > > Department of Computer science and engineering > > Sreenidhi Institute of science and Technology > > Hyderabad > > >
