Upayavira wrote:

Alexander,

There are a whole host of reasons why we only distribute a source version at present. When we get on with implemening cocoon blocks, all will change. For the time being, a source distribution is what we've got. (Reason for source distribution: it is the only simple way to allow a user to switch on and off different blocks and other bits within Cocoon). It is not possible at present to create a 'production build', as everyone will disagree as to what should go in 'their' production system.

I certainly agree that the CLI could be made easier to use. For example, I belive that at present, compiling Cocoon with the Authentication framework present, breaks the CLI. That should not happen.

unfortunately this is really an adventure game if you are no Cocoon contributor: e.g., I just tried to follow your suggestion and removed the authentication block; there is a note about a dependency with the session-fw block, and so I removed both of them.


started compilation.

--> error

why?

because there is also the portal block, and this one is depending on authentication, I belive, but this dependency is *not* noted...

the last days I spent at least 4-5 hours only trying to compile reduced cocoon versions...

so you have to know one thing: in my experience, there are no cocoon users I know that do anything else then compile with the default settings, except explicit Cocoon contributors, who know, what they do. because it is very complex to understand the dependencies and to get whats happening. and because (see above) it is an extremly time consuming undertaking.

so what you did not answer (as I have to notice, that you do not want to share binary versions, and I still do not know why, because there is the possibility (as it always was) to provide binary as well as source distributions for those who want to configure all stuff by themselve) is the following:

cant you provide a set of 3-5 blocks.properties files at least, so that every user can choose from a set of working properties the best suited for the problem?



The CLI should work by unpacking the source archive then doing: build webapp cocoon cli -x cli.xconf

and off it goes.

Over time I'll see what I can do to get it there.

yes, I hope too!

btw. I will answer the other email soon, I just want to test, whether CLI will work with cocoon compiled with authentication excluded.


thank you for the suggestions!



Alex



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