IMHO, developers tend to mirror the general population in that the majority follow the herd. The habits of imperative Java programming and the not-invented-here syndrome meant that Cocoon was only ever going to appeal to a minority of enlightened developers.
Maven is a head f&*ck for the average Joe and so perhaps Cocoon 2.2 is a bridge too far. The paradigm shift to XML pipelines is enough to cope with. I'm still working with 2.11 and it works fine for me. 2009/9/10 Ellis Pritchard <el...@mobi1.co.uk> > Lamentable indeed. > > Having taken a break from Cocoon 2.1 at work, and returned to 2.2, after > much pain and frustration at recreating what was in cocoon using 'pure' java > and spring mvc + freemarker (urgh) + 1000's of lines of horrible java to do > stuff cocoon did for free, I realize how much I miss the simple power of the > platform. For XML content, there is simply nothing better. > > 2.2 really should have been finished: user docs, the halfway house between > spring and Avalon, missing blocks (eventcache anyone?)... it's all so close > and yet so far. > > I'd love to get involved in polishing this stuff, but I've never really > been part of the 'community', just finding and reporting tricky defects! > > Is there any interest out there for futher work on 2.2? > > Ellis. > > > On 10 Sep 2009, at 12:56, David Legg <david.l...@searchevent.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi David, >> >> I'm just about to embark on a new project... I'd like to use Cocoon 2.2 >>> for this, but I'm concerned about the apparent lack of support for it. >>> >> >> It is true that Cocoon has hit a low point at the moment and I'm sure many >> of us wonder if it will ever recover. Many of the original contributors >> have moved on to other things and officially version 2 (and 2.2) are in >> 'maintenance mode'. Version 3 is still being worked on but to be honest it >> looks so different that you will be starting again from scratch compared to >> version 2. >> >> It's a great shame as I really thought version 2.2 was beginning to gain >> traction. >> >> Can anyone suggest any resources that will help me get started with >>> Cocoon 2.2? >>> >> >> I would archive that book on version 2! It will be of little use to you >> when working with 2.2. >> >> Most of the useful documentation can be found here: - >> >> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/2.2/1159_1_1.html >> >> But you should be aware that this is the 'published' version of the >> documentation. It may be the case that the 'unpublished' versions are more >> up to date. To get to them you can click on the link at the bottom of the >> page where it mentions 'Errors and Improvements'. This link will take you >> to the Daisy CMS which is what Cocoon members use to write and edit >> documentation before it gets published. >> >> Yes!... It is a horrible mess and I have commented about this before but >> was persuaded it was for the best. >> >> I'm concerned that interest in and support for Cocoon is dying out. Would >>> I be better off choosing a completely different technology for my project? >>> >> >> I would say think seriously before you commit another year or two of your >> life to learning it! >> >> Regards, >> David Legg >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@cocoon.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@cocoon.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@cocoon.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@cocoon.apache.org > >
