Hi, ok that's an argument that I was not considering. Still think that people are more confortable with projects managed by a large company. Apache has great name and if project gets to a good shape a maturity I think OS foundations are better than a big company that can change the product or kill it when they want.
Maybe we are now in a position of disadvantage but we could change that as we progress in the following months and years. So, not as bad as I thought.... 2017-09-19 22:27 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>: > Yes, I've heard the support topic before. I'm not quite sure how other > Apache projects handle support. I would think that many of these same > "bigger clients" are using at least one Apache project's releases. Like > HTTPD or Maven, etc. > > Do we know how "big" the support company would have to be? If not too > big, maybe the Moonshine folks could become a support vendor. > > Thoughts? > -Alex > > On 9/19/17, 1:19 PM, "Jeffry Houser" <jef...@dot-com-it.com> wrote: > > > > > I think that Apache is a big enough name that it is probably 'good > >enough' to give anyone confidence in using an Apache Project. > > > > What we're missing is a formal support infrastructure. I find that > >many of my bigger clients want a "formal" support agreement so they can > >yell at someone when things go bad. > > > > At this time, I don't think FlexJS has a high enough demand for a > >support company to spring up in the ecosystem. > > > > > >On 9/19/2017 4:10 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > >> That's great point. For me our real weakness is that our competitors > >> has behind Google, Facebook... and for me is the only thing that don't > >> know how to overpass > >> > >> 2017-09-19 21:51 GMT+02:00 Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com > >> <mailto:jef...@dot-com-it.com>>: > >> > >> > >> On 9/19/2017 12:29 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> > >> It might be interesting to hear why people chose Flex in the > >> first place. > >> There was competition back then as well (Silverlight, Lazlo, > >> and more). > >> > >> 1) It targeted the Flash Player, which was on just about every > >> browser. 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