I remember this discussion a few years back, when MSO was the defacto standard, and a moving target. One of the most important things for any agency, company government, or individual is backward compatibility. I have many documents that are difficult for me to retrieve, and I wrote them less than 20 years ago, using DOS programs. I can only imagine what things will be like in 30 years for those "old" files. I believe it's of paramount importance, even in this age of rapid development and change, to realize that electronic storage of documents is the wave of the future. They must all be stored in a simple-to-access format that any program can read, not just the latest flavor of the "big boy." I am actually fairly concerned about this, since the concept of proprietary file types has never been addressed by any government agency (it would be easy, for example, for the USGovt to mandate that all files be maintained with the formatting in a separate file. If a large govt (China, the US, EU) mandated that simple change, then all files would cease to be proprietary, except for formatting changes. One might lose the formats, but the file itself would have a permanence that most files do not now have. I might also suggest that the file formatting be subject to some sort of regulation (yes, they CAN do that!), which makes all formatting retrievable, no matter how long it's been since the file was created. Otherwise, we'll all lose a huge amount of information. That's my opinion. YMMV.... Steve Bradley
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org > wrote: > The docx, xslx, pptx formats and others are OOXML. There are deviations as > well as features (such as encryption) that are not part of OOXML. But most > of the non-support claims about Microsoft honoring OOXML are based on the > fact that early implementations supported the transitional flavor of OOXML. > The move to the strict flavor, a separation created in the ISO process, > has been made over time along with continuing support of transitional OOXML. > > My experience is that deviations with respect to the OOXML standard are > documented better in Microsoft on-line implementation notes than is done by > any implementations of ODF-based software. > > Microsoft Office also supports ODF 1.1 since Office 2007 SP2 and ODF 1.2 > is supported in the new Office 2013. There are public, on-line > implementation notes and documentation of deviations for those too. I've > also heard that European versions of Microsoft Office can be set to have > ODF as the default format. I have no way to confirm that and I am not > certain that is new with Office 2013 or is also the case for Office 2010. > > The main binary formats, and RTF (a text-carried format) are now all > documented and that has been true for a few years. All of the > specifications are freely downloadable. > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don C. Myers [mailto:donmy...@myersfarm.com] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 08:57 > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? > > Hi Everyone, > > When the Microsoft formats were approved as an ISO standard, wasn't that > supposed to make the information on their formats available to everyone > else? From what I've read through the years, they have failed to > implement their own ISO standards. Shouldn't there be some way to > enforce the ISO standards approval on Microsoft so they can become > inter-operable with LibreOffice? > > Don > > > On 11/19/2012 08:03 AM, VA wrote: > > Tanstaafl wrote: > > > > "There is one more hing that could turn this around - if the EU (or some > > other major governmental entity) were to engage in and win an antitrust > > lawsuit against Microsoft and force them to *fully* document their file > > formats, as happened with their Windows Server SMB protocols (which I > > understand has benefited the Samba project immensely)." > > > > > > It would help immensely if the Open Source folks would combine their > > efforts on one excellent MS alternative. The twin development of AOO > > and LibO (with each having its own advantages over the other), only > > helps MS. > > > > Virgil > > > > -- > > > ** > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Steven C. (Steve) Bradley CA Dept of Real Estate, Lic. #00869762 619-316-8781 Direct 619-442-8833 XT 119 Office See my websites: Real Estate and Finance http://realestateandfinancialwisdom.blogspot.com Relationship with God: http://truevoiceofthefather.blogspot.com/ <http://realestateandfinancialwisdom.blogspot.com/> "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." --Margaret Thatcher "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." - Samuel Johnson -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted