Hi :) Ahhh, Ubuntu keeps finding new ways of hiding the workspaces. The Ctrl Alt arrows is good to know! Thanks :) I tend to use each one for a different purpose so i use 1. for web-browsing and emailing 2. for image editing, tracking where logos are in logos or posters folders, trying to get them to the right places 3. for web-design, html editing 4. for sys admin stuff, ssh'ing, long downloads/uploads On a fairly confusing day i might have stuff going on in 3 and on a really "bad hair day" all 4, but i try to avoid that. It's more useful when i can see the workspace switcher. That way i can see tiny miniatures of windows open in which of the spaces. So, when i completely forget what i am doing it's kinda easy to check what type of day it's been so far.
Even though the taskbar/launcher/panel only shows what is going on in the current workspace if i am in workspace 3 and click on the firefox icon then it whizzes me around so i'm in 1. Hmm, bad example because if i've got firefox open in 2 or more workspaces then clicking on it goes nowhere. Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Tim Lloyd <tim.ll...@gmx.com> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 23:36 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse > > >Hi Regina, > >welcome to the wonderful world of linux. Feel free to ask questions as >there is a learning curve :) > >I am not familiar with Suse but most linux flavours have a few >consistencies. Not strictly answering your question but my thoughts: > >1. With linux you are likely to have a number of workspaces and you can > navigate left to right by using CTRL-ALT-Right Arrow or Left Arrow >2. I normally dedicate a workspace to LO (in my case workspace 4) >3. When I go to the desktop menu I can select the "Office" TAB and > select (eg.) LibreOffice Writer which opens a blank document >4. F4 to close this document >5. the LO start center should appear on your desktop >6. I just leave the start center in that workspace whenever I need to > use it > >Now a couple of qualifiers: > >I guess you are using KDE and I am not familiar with how you access the >menu in step 3 (according to the doco there should be an "office" icon >at the top of the screen - I am guessing you are not seeing that) >Normally the "office" tab will have a libreoffice option which removes >the need to open up a blank doc. A well intentioned update to 4.1 is >causing a bit of strife in this regard. > >Hope this helps > >Tim > > > > >On 08/10/2013 06:18 AM, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) >> +1 >> to normally installing from repos and the rest of your advice was & is all >> good too. >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Sina Momken <digi...@gmail.com> >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>> Cc: Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de>; >>> "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> >>> Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 20:08 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse >>> >>> >>> Hello Davies, >>> >>> In the case of LO you're right and manual install will not cause any issue. >>> But as a typical user of Linux I prefer installing applications from the >>> default or 3rd party repo. Because this way is easier and mainly because >>> of AUTOMATIC UPDATE capability. >>> But many members of this list (like you and Regina) are more than just >>> typical users of Linux and are somehow professional LO users. Therefore >>> in this case you're right and manual install can be a good option too. >>> Anyway it's up to you. >>> >>> Best, >>> Sina >>> >>> >>> >>> On 08/09/2013 09:01 PM, Tom Davies wrote: >>>> Hi :) >>>> This is all true but LibreOffice and Evolution are exceptions because most >>>> repos have such older versions that most people want to upgrade. >>>> >>>> LO has some tweaks for different DEs (that's what the desktop integration >>>> is about (i think)) and so mostly it's preferable to have the more >>>> advanced features rather than just a slightly nicer looking one. LO looks >>>> quite nice enough from the site as it is. Also i don't think there is a >>>> problem with dependency issues. Mostly the package managers take care of >>>> all that although some distros make that quite tough (not looking at >>>> anyone in particular Girvin (Slackware right?)). I think you state that >>>> in point 3 so i am just agreeing there. There is not much danger of the >>>> problems in 4 although it's theoretically possible. >>>> >>>> So i think you raise over-complicated points that are not really relevant. >>>> Since most of the rest of us also do that quite often you are in the >>>> right place :) Welcome in too! :D >>>> Regards from >>>> Tom :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Sina Momken <digi...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> >>>>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 15:40 >>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/09/2013 03:22 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my >>>>>> old Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive, >>>>>> unpacked it and followed the instructions in its readme. >>>>> Hello Regina, >>>>> I appreciate your efforts to shift to Free Software. However in the >>>>> Linux world unlike in Windows most users use Repositories to install, >>>>> manage and update applications. There are many advantages of using repos: >>>>> 1- The repo itself tracks latest version of applications and so you can >>>>> always be updated without the need to download and update your >>>>> applications one by one. >>>>> 2- All packages in a repo are consistent with each other. As you may >>>>> know many packages depend on others (i.e. libraries); When you manually >>>>> install a software which is not in repo, it may need some libraries >>>>> which are not present and so the software may not work properly or it >>>>> leads to upgrade of those libraries which may break some other >>>>> applications (in case the library upgrade is not backward compatible >>>>> e.g. gnome 3.8). >>>>> 3- You can download and install a .rpm (for fedora and suse) or .deb >>>>> (for ubuntu and debian) file of a software. In this case all >>>>> dependencies will be checked and only if no incompatibility exists it >>>>> allows installation. This method is safer but it lacks automatic upgrade >>>>> feature. >>>>> 4- Mostly professional users and usually for specific purposes manually >>>>> download archive (.tar.gz) of a software from its website and then >>>>> follow the inner instructions to install it. There is a convention to >>>>> install manually installed software to /opt (abbreviation for optional) >>>>> to differentiate them from software installed from repos. Not only you >>>>> can not automatically update software installed with this method, but >>>>> also the software may not work properly due to inconsistencies. >>>>> 5- Windows applications usually solve the inconsistency problem by >>>>> installing most of their needed libraries again. This solution usually >>>>> ends to applications which occupy huge size on the disk, which is mostly >>>>> redundant. >>>>> >>>>> Therefore I recommend you to install your desired application (e.g. >>>>> libreoffice) from OpenSuse repository directly. It seems that the latest >>>>> version of LO in OpenSuse 12.3 official repo is 3.6.3. So if you want to >>>>> install the latest version of LO, you can use 3rd party repos specific >>>>> to OpenSuse. I could find two 3rd party repos for LO for OpenSuse 12.3: >>>>> 1. Repo named LO Stable with version 4.0.3 with URL >>>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_12.3/ >>>>> 2. Repo named LO Unstable with version 4.1.0 with URL >>>>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Unstable/openSUSE_12.3/ >>>>> >>>>> These repos must update automatically when newer version of LO come out >>>>> and so you can update your installed LO in the future only with some >>>>> clicks, no more efforts. >>>>> >>>>> For instructions on how to add a repository see: >>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Add_package_repositories >>>>> >>>>> For the list of all official, semi-official and 3rd party repos see: >>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Package_repositories >>>>> http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_package_repositories#LibreOffice_STABLE >>>>> >>>>>> I can get the single modules from the application launcher, but there >>>>> remain two >>>>>> problems. >>>>>> (1) >>>>>> The instruction mention a directory "desktop-integration" to be in the >>>>>> folder RPMS, but there is no such directory. >>>>>> (2) >>>>>> I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, >>>>>> not a specific module. How do I get that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> Regina >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> Problems? >>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>>> deleted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> >>> >>> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
