On 09/10/15 20:24, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
Mike Scott wrote:
On 09/10/15 12:43, Malcolm Moore wrote:
...
This is outstandingly horrible !

Yes.

My summary for anyone in the same boat suffering from brain failure at
the end of the week:
.....

It will then work for the duration of the session as A3 and Landscape
are now selected ( but greyed out again )
Once you save it and open it again you have to start from the beginning.

Not correct AFAICS. Unfortunately, changing print properties doesn't
seem to mark the file as needs-to-be-saved, so ^S does nothing (and
File|Save is greyed out).

That depends on the settings:
- Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General > Printing sets "document
modified" status
and:
- Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General > Allow to save document even
when the document is not modified

Tools > Options > Load/Save > General > Load printer settings with the
document probably also affects whether previously saved printer settings
are actually used next time the document is opened.

Mark.



Hmmm.

I think the problem here is one of obscurity. Too many options spread over too many dialogues/tabs all affecting results, no obvious way to find what's happening unless you "just know" to look there, and the help file isn't very helpful.

There's even inconsistency between programs. Try the following in each of Writer and Impress. Create a new document and save it. Change the printer via File|Print setting. Now look at menu choice File|Save. In Impress, it's greyed out. In Writer, it's available.

(Both options you mention above are unset in my system, btw.)


To add more annoyance, as part of trying to get my own brochure issue sorted, I upgraded to 5.0.2.2. A minor upgrade, yet it's changed the file load/save dialogues to LO's own. The option to revert to (my preference) the system dialogues has apparently gone. The information at
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Opening_Documents#System_File_Dialogs_or_LibreOffice_Dialogs
is clearly now wrong. It's not helpful to do this to the poor user!!!


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Mike Scott (unet2 <at> [deletethis] scottsonline.org.uk)
Harlow Essex England

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