Suspect lots of rivers of same name around the world, there is one in Tasmania
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron...@gmail.com > wrote: > Happy to consider change to 'Apache River Isis' I like that better. > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Mike Burton <mi...@mycosystems.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> my 2c: Its not worth changing our name, some of my reasons: >> 1. The considerable effort could be better used elsewhere >> 2. Many entities names coincide with “undesirable" ones (some might even >> object to Apache helicopters) >> 3. ISIS name might change, actually it is starting to, as others have >> mentioned, if they changed it to our new name should we change again?? >> 4. *** them, we were here first >> >> Mike Burton >> mi...@mycosystems.co.uk >> >> > On 23 Nov 2015, at 16:19, Dain Gosbee <dain.m.gos...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi guys, >> > >> > I just wanted to chime in here. Personally, I would also advocate >> changing >> > the name. I would also be happy to take part in suggesting name >> changes. >> > >> > Just wanted to add my two cents. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sincerely, >> > Dain Gosbee >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Cesar Lugo <cesar.l...@sisorg.com.mx> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, searching for >> >> Apache ISIS gives similar results because the Apache helicopters agains >> >> Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works much better for me. I >> hope >> >> that helps. >> >> >> >> Cesar. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto: >> >> joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com] >> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM >> >> To: users@isis.apache.org >> >> Subject: AW: Project name >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2]. >> >> I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1]. >> >> >> >> BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message as >> well ;-) >> >> >> >> Jörg >> >> >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis >> >> [2] >> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> >> Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jer...@stromboli.it] >> >> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32 >> >> An: users >> >> Betreff: Re: Project name >> >> >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> >> >> Welcome to this mailing list! >> >> >> >> We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided then to >> >> leave the project name as it is. But if there are new circumstances we >> >> might need to reconsider. As you may have noticed we always refer to >> the >> >> project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I see a trend of >> >> abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't know the >> situation >> >> well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does not >> hinder >> >> our growth and changing the name would not speed up things either. I'm >> >> still biased to leave things as they are and devote our limited >> resources >> >> in making our framework better. >> >> >> >> FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part of the >> >> river Thames that flows through Oxford [3]. >> >> >> >> Jeroen >> >> >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982 >> >> [2] >> >> >> >> >> http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-call-daesh-instead >> >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis >> >> >> >> On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard <andr...@melbpc.org.au> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the project >> >>> name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because searching for >> >>> apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / unsavoury results, and I >> >>> would expect that might just increase over time. It also might trigger >> >>> email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in for some. >> >>> I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of the >> >>> word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue. >> >>> >> >>> I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change could >> >>> cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG >> >> Rechtsform: Kommanditgesellschaft, Bremen HRA 21928, USt-IdNr.: DE >> >> 812773878. >> >> Geschäftsleitung Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG: Reiner Heiken (Vors.), >> Dirk >> >> Blesius, Martin Brinkmann, Matthias Heimbach, Jan-Hendrik Köstergarten, >> >> Nicholas Minde, Lars Wedel, Jens Wollesen. >> >> Persönlich haftende Gesellschafterin: Kühne & Nagel A.G., Rechtsform: >> >> Aktiengesellschaft nach luxemburgischem Recht, HR-Nr.: B 18745, >> >> Geschäftsführendes Verwaltungsratsmitglied: Karl Gernandt. >> >> Geschäftsleitung Region Westeuropa: Yngve Ruud (Vors.), Richard Huhn, >> >> Diederick de Vroet, Björn Johansson, Jan Kunze, Bruno Mang, Stefan >> Paul, >> >> Holger Ketz, Dominic Edmonds. >> >> >> >> Wir arbeiten ausschließlich auf Grundlage der Allgemeinen Deutschen >> >> Spediteursbedingungen (ADSp), jeweils neuester Fassung. Wir verweisen >> >> insbesondere auf die vom Gesetz abweichenden Haftungsbeschränkungen von >> >> Ziffer 23 und 24 ADSp. Den vollständigen Text der ADSp übersenden wir >> Ihnen >> >> gerne auf Anfrage und können Sie auch unter >> http://www.kuehne-nagel.com >> >> einsehen. Ergänzend wird vereinbart, dass (1) Ziffer 27 ADSp im Rahmen >> >> internationaler Übereinkommen weder unsere Haftung noch die Zurechnung >> des >> >> Verschuldens von Leuten und sonstigen Dritten zu Gunsten des >> Auftraggebers >> >> erweitert, und (2) wir in den im deutschen Seehandelsrecht aufgeführten >> >> Fällen des nautischen Verschuldens oder Feuer an Bord nur für eigenes >> >> Verschulden und (3) im Sinne der CMNI genannten Voraussetzungen nicht >> für >> >> nautisches Verschulden, Feuer an Bord oder Mängel des Schiffes haften. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> >> >> >