Suspect lots of rivers of same name around the world, there is one in
Tasmania

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Happy to consider change to 'Apache River Isis' I like that better.
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Mike Burton <mi...@mycosystems.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> my 2c: Its not worth changing our name, some of my reasons:
>> 1. The considerable effort could be better used elsewhere
>> 2. Many entities names coincide with “undesirable" ones (some might even
>> object to Apache helicopters)
>> 3. ISIS name might change, actually it is starting to, as others have
>> mentioned, if they changed it to our new name should we change again??
>> 4. *** them, we were here first
>>
>> Mike Burton
>> mi...@mycosystems.co.uk
>>
>> > On 23 Nov 2015, at 16:19, Dain Gosbee <dain.m.gos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > I just wanted to chime in here.  Personally, I would also advocate
>> changing
>> > the name.  I would also be happy to take part in suggesting name
>> changes.
>> >
>> > Just wanted to add my two cents.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Dain Gosbee
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Cesar Lugo <cesar.l...@sisorg.com.mx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, searching for
>> >> Apache ISIS gives similar results because the Apache helicopters agains
>> >> Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works much better for me. I
>> hope
>> >> that helps.
>> >>
>> >> Cesar.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto:
>> >> joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com]
>> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM
>> >> To: users@isis.apache.org
>> >> Subject: AW: Project name
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2].
>> >> I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1].
>> >>
>> >> BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message as
>> well ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Jörg
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
>> >> [2]
>> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
>> >>
>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jer...@stromboli.it]
>> >> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32
>> >> An: users
>> >> Betreff: Re: Project name
>> >>
>> >> Hi Andrew,
>> >>
>> >> Welcome to this mailing list!
>> >>
>> >> We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided then to
>> >> leave the project name as it is. But if there are new circumstances we
>> >> might need to reconsider. As you may have noticed we always refer to
>> the
>> >> project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I see a trend of
>> >> abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't know the
>> situation
>> >> well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does not
>> hinder
>> >> our growth and changing the name would not speed up things either. I'm
>> >> still biased to leave things as they are and devote our limited
>> resources
>> >> in making our framework better.
>> >>
>> >> FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part of the
>> >> river Thames that flows through Oxford [3].
>> >>
>> >> Jeroen
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982
>> >> [2]
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-call-daesh-instead
>> >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis
>> >>
>> >> On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard <andr...@melbpc.org.au>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the project
>> >>> name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because searching for
>> >>> apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / unsavoury results, and I
>> >>> would expect that might just increase over time. It also might trigger
>> >>> email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in for some.
>> >>> I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of the
>> >>> word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change could
>> >>> cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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