Me too. Like you said, you were here first. :) -----Original Message----- From: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jer...@stromboli.it] Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 8:12 AM To: users Subject: Re: Project name
UK's Prime Minister is on our side ;-) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343325/Cameron-decides-start-referring-ISIS-Daesh-term-disliked-leaders-sounds-like-word-crush-Arabic.html On 23 November 2015 at 23:46, Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron...@gmail.com> wrote: > Suspect lots of rivers of same name around the world, there is one in > Tasmania > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Stephen Cameron < > steve.cameron...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Happy to consider change to 'Apache River Isis' I like that better. > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Mike Burton > > <mi...@mycosystems.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Guys, > >> > >> my 2c: Its not worth changing our name, some of my reasons: > >> 1. The considerable effort could be better used elsewhere 2. Many > >> entities names coincide with “undesirable" ones (some might even > >> object to Apache helicopters) 3. ISIS name might change, actually > >> it is starting to, as others have mentioned, if they changed it to > >> our new name should we change again?? > >> 4. *** them, we were here first > >> > >> Mike Burton > >> mi...@mycosystems.co.uk > >> > >> > On 23 Nov 2015, at 16:19, Dain Gosbee <dain.m.gos...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi guys, > >> > > >> > I just wanted to chime in here. Personally, I would also > >> > advocate > >> changing > >> > the name. I would also be happy to take part in suggesting name > >> changes. > >> > > >> > Just wanted to add my two cents. > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sincerely, > >> > Dain Gosbee > >> > > >> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Cesar Lugo > >> > <cesar.l...@sisorg.com.mx > > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, > >> >> searching for Apache ISIS gives similar results because the > >> >> Apache helicopters > agains > >> >> Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works much better for > >> >> me. I > >> hope > >> >> that helps. > >> >> > >> >> Cesar. > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto: > >> >> joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com] > >> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM > >> >> To: users@isis.apache.org > >> >> Subject: AW: Project name > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2]. > >> >> I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1]. > >> >> > >> >> BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message > >> >> as > >> well ;-) > >> >> > >> >> Jörg > >> >> > >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis > >> >> [2] > >> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Lev > >> ant > >> >> > >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> >> Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jer...@stromboli.it] > >> >> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32 > >> >> An: users > >> >> Betreff: Re: Project name > >> >> > >> >> Hi Andrew, > >> >> > >> >> Welcome to this mailing list! > >> >> > >> >> We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided > >> >> then > to > >> >> leave the project name as it is. But if there are new > >> >> circumstances > we > >> >> might need to reconsider. As you may have noticed we always > >> >> refer to > >> the > >> >> project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I see a > >> >> trend of abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't > >> >> know the > >> situation > >> >> well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does > >> >> not > >> hinder > >> >> our growth and changing the name would not speed up things either. > I'm > >> >> still biased to leave things as they are and devote our limited > >> resources > >> >> in making our framework better. > >> >> > >> >> FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part > >> >> of the river Thames that flows through Oxford [3]. > >> >> > >> >> Jeroen > >> >> > >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982 > >> >> [2] > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-c > all-daesh-instead > >> >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis > >> >> > >> >> On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard > >> >> <andr...@melbpc.org.au> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the > >> >>> project name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because > >> >>> searching for apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / > >> >>> unsavoury results, > and I > >> >>> would expect that might just increase over time. It also might > trigger > >> >>> email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in > >> >>> for > some. > >> >>> I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of > >> >>> the word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue. > >> >>> > >> >>> I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change > >> >>> could cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG > >> >> Rechtsform: Kommanditgesellschaft, Bremen HRA 21928, USt-IdNr.: > >> >> DE 812773878. > >> >> Geschäftsleitung Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG: Reiner Heiken > >> >> (Vors.), > >> Dirk > >> >> Blesius, Martin Brinkmann, Matthias Heimbach, Jan-Hendrik > Köstergarten, > >> >> Nicholas Minde, Lars Wedel, Jens Wollesen. > >> >> Persönlich haftende Gesellschafterin: Kühne & Nagel A.G., Rechtsform: > >> >> Aktiengesellschaft nach luxemburgischem Recht, HR-Nr.: B 18745, > >> >> Geschäftsführendes Verwaltungsratsmitglied: Karl Gernandt. > >> >> Geschäftsleitung Region Westeuropa: Yngve Ruud (Vors.), Richard > >> >> Huhn, Diederick de Vroet, Björn Johansson, Jan Kunze, Bruno > >> >> Mang, Stefan > >> Paul, > >> >> Holger Ketz, Dominic Edmonds. > >> >> > >> >> Wir arbeiten ausschließlich auf Grundlage der Allgemeinen > >> >> Deutschen Spediteursbedingungen (ADSp), jeweils neuester > >> >> Fassung. Wir verweisen insbesondere auf die vom Gesetz > >> >> abweichenden Haftungsbeschränkungen > von > >> >> Ziffer 23 und 24 ADSp. Den vollständigen Text der ADSp > >> >> übersenden wir > >> Ihnen > >> >> gerne auf Anfrage und können Sie auch unter > >> http://www.kuehne-nagel.com > >> >> einsehen. Ergänzend wird vereinbart, dass (1) Ziffer 27 ADSp im > Rahmen > >> >> internationaler Übereinkommen weder unsere Haftung noch die > Zurechnung > >> des > >> >> Verschuldens von Leuten und sonstigen Dritten zu Gunsten des > >> Auftraggebers > >> >> erweitert, und (2) wir in den im deutschen Seehandelsrecht > aufgeführten > >> >> Fällen des nautischen Verschuldens oder Feuer an Bord nur für > >> >> eigenes Verschulden und (3) im Sinne der CMNI genannten > >> >> Voraussetzungen nicht > >> für > >> >> nautisches Verschulden, Feuer an Bord oder Mängel des Schiffes > haften. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --- > >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
