There is an already Apache River ;) On 23 November 2015 at 22:43, Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Happy to consider change to 'Apache River Isis' I like that better. > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Mike Burton <mi...@mycosystems.co.uk> > wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > my 2c: Its not worth changing our name, some of my reasons: > > 1. The considerable effort could be better used elsewhere > > 2. Many entities names coincide with “undesirable" ones (some might even > > object to Apache helicopters) > > 3. ISIS name might change, actually it is starting to, as others have > > mentioned, if they changed it to our new name should we change again?? > > 4. *** them, we were here first > > > > Mike Burton > > mi...@mycosystems.co.uk > > > > > On 23 Nov 2015, at 16:19, Dain Gosbee <dain.m.gos...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I just wanted to chime in here. Personally, I would also advocate > > changing > > > the name. I would also be happy to take part in suggesting name > changes. > > > > > > Just wanted to add my two cents. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sincerely, > > > Dain Gosbee > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Cesar Lugo <cesar.l...@sisorg.com.mx> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, searching for > > >> Apache ISIS gives similar results because the Apache helicopters > agains > > >> Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works much better for me. I > hope > > >> that helps. > > >> > > >> Cesar. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto: > > >> joerg.r...@kuehne-nagel.com] > > >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM > > >> To: users@isis.apache.org > > >> Subject: AW: Project name > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2]. > > >> I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1]. > > >> > > >> BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message as > well > > ;-) > > >> > > >> Jörg > > >> > > >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis > > >> [2] > > https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant > > >> > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > >> Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jer...@stromboli.it] > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32 > > >> An: users > > >> Betreff: Re: Project name > > >> > > >> Hi Andrew, > > >> > > >> Welcome to this mailing list! > > >> > > >> We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided then > to > > >> leave the project name as it is. But if there are new circumstances we > > >> might need to reconsider. As you may have noticed we always refer to > the > > >> project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I see a trend of > > >> abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't know the > > situation > > >> well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does not > > hinder > > >> our growth and changing the name would not speed up things either. I'm > > >> still biased to leave things as they are and devote our limited > > resources > > >> in making our framework better. > > >> > > >> FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part of the > > >> river Thames that flows through Oxford [3]. > > >> > > >> Jeroen > > >> > > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982 > > >> [2] > > >> > > >> > > > http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-call-daesh-instead > > >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis > > >> > > >> On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard <andr...@melbpc.org.au> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the project > > >>> name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because searching for > > >>> apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / unsavoury results, and > I > > >>> would expect that might just increase over time. It also might > trigger > > >>> email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in for > some. > > >>> I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of the > > >>> word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue. > > >>> > > >>> I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change could > > >>> cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG > > >> Rechtsform: Kommanditgesellschaft, Bremen HRA 21928, USt-IdNr.: DE > > >> 812773878. > > >> Geschäftsleitung Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) 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Den vollständigen Text der ADSp übersenden wir > > Ihnen > > >> gerne auf Anfrage und können Sie auch unter > http://www.kuehne-nagel.com > > >> einsehen. Ergänzend wird vereinbart, dass (1) Ziffer 27 ADSp im Rahmen > > >> internationaler Übereinkommen weder unsere Haftung noch die Zurechnung > > des > > >> Verschuldens von Leuten und sonstigen Dritten zu Gunsten des > > Auftraggebers > > >> erweitert, und (2) wir in den im deutschen Seehandelsrecht > aufgeführten > > >> Fällen des nautischen Verschuldens oder Feuer an Bord nur für eigenes > > >> Verschulden und (3) im Sinne der CMNI genannten Voraussetzungen nicht > > für > > >> nautisches Verschulden, Feuer an Bord oder Mängel des Schiffes haften. > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >> > > >> > > > > > -- Bilgin Ibryam Red Hat, Inc. 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