Baran,

You wrote:
*This means downsizing the whole thing to a simplified kernel for a special
application field.*
Here's a simplified kernel that arguably covers wider version of
application semantics than the usual "semantic web"  tools.

Here's a summary slide:

    www.executable-english.com/internet_business_logic_in_a_nutshell.pdf

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On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:33 AM, <baran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:02:46 +0100, David Jordan <jdavidjorda...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I agree that have some discussion about this is very useful. Many of us
>> have tried to evangelize semantic web technologies in our organizations
>> and > have struggled and failed because we cannot provide sufficient
>> justification for using the technology. Hearing the specific value
>> provided that can convince the skeptics is extremely valuable, much more
>> valuable
>> than simple support questions about a particular API interface.
>>
>
>
> yes, i thing similar things, also like others responding to this thread in
> an open minded way...
>
> But i also want to describe something for the future:
>
> I imagine, a cheekily developer constructs a small, easily understandable
> and effectively implementable  'subset' of the whole thing 'Semantic Web'
> defining a new playing field or making great progress in usual apps of
> today.
>
> This cold be the realisation of TBL cit. (about 20 years ago?): 'The most
> exciting things about Semantic Web is not what we can imagine to do with
> it, but we can't yet imagine it will do.'
>
> First step is always a very simple and comprehensible idea.. This means
> downsizing the whole thing to a simplified kernel for a special application
> field... Better late than never...
>
> This is really what i instinctively think about this stuff after so many
> years. I know, such things are totally off topic for Jena team, but my
> posting is for 2 or 3 users who can be interested, if it is allowed...
>
> thanks, baran.
>
> ************
>
>
>
> On 10/02/17 12:22, kumar rohit wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, what are the benefits of semantic web technologies? I have used
>>>> semantic web technologies from one year but, in theory I am not sure the
>>>> real advantages of semantic web.
>>>> When we develop a system using traditional RDBMS and Java and same
>>>> system
>>>> we develop using Java/Jena Protege SPARQL etc, so what is the advantage
>>>> of
>>>> the latter application?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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