Do you understand the different between rules used for inference and RDF which contains asserted data?
> Thanks all for explanation. > > I still need some explanation. What is the advantage of using ontology in > our semantic web application. Its just that we can share it? > > Second, what is the advantage of Jena rules? A task completed with an RDF > API and same task with Jena rules, why people prefer rules? > > Thanks. > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:28 AM, <baran...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Adrian, i think this is a rather old and not yet fully developed >> application with a UI needing a bit freshing up for smoothly working, >> databases are (I tried with commodities1/2) also old and rather small. Is >> gold no commodity? if i put a question with an agent the effect is only >> reordering the list of general questions. My suggestion is: Let at first as >> input for an agent not only questions but also the option of a single item >> and then give a list of possible questions the agent can answer exactly for >> this item. May be i couldn't get everything so how it is meant... >> >> But the idea as whole has some original aspects, that was really what i >> meant: Trying away from heavy classical view of SPARQL databases connected >> to certain ontologies with a lot of small surprising error effects in >> developement, so that people ask: Why dont you make a simple SQL database, >> you talk then about Semantic Web, Linked Data basing on triples and URI's >> and of course about public endpoints. Then comes the question: 'public' >> endpoints with this performance where SPARQL only an adapted SQL for >> triples is? etc... >> >> I think you could next fresh up your concept if you have time for it, the >> other question is how it would react under heavy usage... This is my >> comment after 20 minutes, sorry that i had not much more time... >> >> ********** >> >> >> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:05:54 +0100, Adrian Walker <adriandwal...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Baran, >>> You wrote: >>> *This means downsizing the whole thing to a simplified kernel for a >>> special >>> application field.* >>> Here's a simplified kernel that arguably covers wider version of >>> application semantics than the usual "semantic web" tools. >>> >>> Here's a summary slide: >>> >>> www.executable-english.com/internet_business_logic_in_a_nutshell.pdf >>> >>> The system that supports this is live, online at >>> www.executable-english.com. >>> >>> >>> Shared use is free, and there are no advertisements. Nothing to download, >>> just point a browser to the site. >>> >>> Thanks for comments, -- Adrian >>> >>> Adrian Walker >>> Reengineering LLC >>> San Jose, CA, USA >>> 860 830 2085 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:33 AM, <baran...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:02:46 +0100, David Jordan < >>>> jdavidjorda...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree that have some discussion about this is very useful. Many of us >>>> >>>>> have tried to evangelize semantic web technologies in our organizations >>>>> and > have struggled and failed because we cannot provide sufficient >>>>> justification for using the technology. Hearing the specific value >>>>> provided that can convince the skeptics is extremely valuable, much more >>>>> valuable >>>>> than simple support questions about a particular API interface. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> yes, i thing similar things, also like others responding to this thread >>>> in >>>> an open minded way... >>>> >>>> But i also want to describe something for the future: >>>> >>>> I imagine, a cheekily developer constructs a small, easily understandable >>>> and effectively implementable 'subset' of the whole thing 'Semantic Web' >>>> defining a new playing field or making great progress in usual apps of >>>> today. >>>> >>>> This cold be the realisation of TBL cit. (about 20 years ago?): 'The most >>>> exciting things about Semantic Web is not what we can imagine to do with >>>> it, but we can't yet imagine it will do.' >>>> >>>> First step is always a very simple and comprehensible idea.. This means >>>> downsizing the whole thing to a simplified kernel for a special >>>> application >>>> field... Better late than never... >>>> >>>> This is really what i instinctively think about this stuff after so many >>>> years. I know, such things are totally off topic for Jena team, but my >>>> posting is for 2 or 3 users who can be interested, if it is allowed... >>>> >>>> thanks, baran. >>>> >>>> ************ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/02/17 12:22, kumar rohit wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Hi, what are the benefits of semantic web technologies? I have used >>>>>> >>>>>>> semantic web technologies from one year but, in theory I am not sure >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> real advantages of semantic web. >>>>>>> When we develop a system using traditional RDBMS and Java and same >>>>>>> system >>>>>>> we develop using Java/Jena Protege SPARQL etc, so what is the >>>>>>> advantage >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the latter application? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ >> -- Lorenz Bühmann AKSW group, University of Leipzig Group: http://aksw.org - semantic web research center
