Oh yes, and I'll be doing some new searches now that I have your name as a search key since you say you've discussed this a lot. :) Searches on settings.xml, or repository or most of the keywords I can think of for this just have way too many hits. The help is definitely appreciated, sorry if I sounded a bit sour.
On the plus side, I'm now running down dependencies now that I've figured out where to find things in "central" (and where central is). Interestingly, a simple maven-clean from maven 3.0.2 pulls dependencies for multiple versions of maven and maven-parent. Seems a little funky to me, but I guess it's probably a product of plug-ins having a separate release schedule. -Gus Patrick Heck ||| Principal Software Engineer Aspen Technology, Inc. ||| +1 781-221-6483 ||| www.aspentech.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:22 PM To: users@maven.apache.org Subject: Re: Bootstraping a repository manager The other nice thing about Maven is that no matter what one is building or how unusual one thinks their environment is, someone has already built something similar and someone has already worked out a best practice in a similar environment. It is also supported by a great forum where you get advice that you could not find or afford and it is free here. Ron On 18/05/2011 9:32 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick) > <gus.h...@aspentech.com> wrote: >> As I explained in another response, I want the software to tell me when I've got enough stuff to build (much like test driven development), rather than trusting I covered everything post-hoc. As for doing it with ant projects, I've certainly been there. At one job I wrote a custom ant task that looked at /lib, a properties file and a directory called /licenses. If the jar in lib didn't have an entry in the properties file, or the value for that jar in the properties file didn't match the name of a file in /licenses, the build failed. Not really that hard to implement. As you say, the big time sink is in hunting down the licenses, but in the current job I have to do that anyway to include a copy of the license with the approval form for the lawyers... nothing maven can do about that. The only irritation is that some basic artifacts seem to be hard to find and instead of an answer such as "the artifacts you need can be found here" I get a chorus of "don't do that" > Hm? I already told you where the things are. In the central > repository. (And you need both the jar and the pom for it to work.) > > Typically the only organizations that can afford to be this paranoid > are really big ones. I work with one of those. The internal Maven > repo does not talk to the internet. Instead, developers fill out a > web form to request a new artifact to be uploaded, someone approves it > if it's in the standards, or sends them off to the reference > architecture team to explain why they need it, and then someone else > presses the buttons in Archiva to upload it. > > Plugins are a special case. Those we handle within the build team, as > they typically want all kinds of dependencies. So for those we > connect to the internet and use the Maven Assembly plugin to create a > repository bundle by listing the plugin as a dependency. Maven goes > off and gets everything that plugin needs, and the whole bundle is > uploaded. Those artifacts generally aren't going to get into your end > product, they are just used during the build. > >> By the way, I am a bit irritated that maven put's the repository information out on the developer's settings.xml. I'd much rather be able to manage that centrally, and not leave it as something that they could screw up, or forget to do after their hard drive fails and the set things up a second time. Is there a way to lock things into a single repository without settings.xml? > That's where it's done, with a mirror in settings.xml. You can create > your own Maven distribution with the settings.xml you want them to use > packaged inside it (in the /conf directory.) > > I assume if you're this strict about dependencies, developers are not > downloading random software from the internet and installing it on > their machines, so provide the Maven distro you want them to use. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original copy and any copy of any e-mail, and any printout thereof. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
