On 22-Mar-08, at 3:23 PM, Trenton Adams wrote:
Yes, it definitely is simpler in some ways, but ends up being more
complex, and less intuitive in many other ways. Kind of like a Mac
in comparison to Windows. Mac is so dumbed down it becomes
difficult to use to get the job done, in many other ways. I found
ant a lot easier in many ways. The learning curve for ant was
extremely minimal. I suppose I have to use maven, just for it's
dependency management, but I sure don't like the structure it uses. :(
It's not more complex as the premise is that composition trumps a big
globular build. It is intentional and in the long run will prove far
more useful. Based on feedback from hundreds of users over the years
this has been the overwhelming opinion. We enforce this architectural
integrity from the get go.
So, how do I go about doing it then, with multiple projects? Do I
have two copies of everything? Do I make one module depend on the
other, so that every time I want to deploy, I have to either install
the dependency JAR into the local repository, or a remote one, so
that the webapp has access to it? i.e. If I update the one project,
that has the class files and such, how is the webapp project going
to know about it?
It kind of upsets me, because a couple years ago, I specifically
combined two projects that were really one project, because ant has
the ability to make different jars and such. I did it because it
was "simpler", and now maven is making it more complex. :( Okay,
I'm done pouting. :P I'll have to see if it's worth it.
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Trenton Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
That's what I was about to do, but that really is a hack.
No, it isn't. That's the suggested way to do it.
to be a better way than that. Isn't there? I thought maven would
at
least have the functionality of ant.
Of course, Maven can do anything that Ant can do: Just use the
maven-antrun-plugin and create an Ant script that can be launched
from
Maven. The funny thing about Maven is that it enforces you to work
structured. That implies, in particular, to think and work in
modules.
Once you get used to it, you'll soon learn that it simplifies things.
At least, my Maven scripts are typically much simpler and more easily
understood than my monster Ant scripts.
Jochen
Thanks,
Jason
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