On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Brian E. Fox <bri...@reply.infinity.nu> wrote: > Howard, You have an interesting way of motivation and over generalization: > "Once again, Maven is screwed up beyond belief and the developer community > response is pitifully absent" "http://twitter.com/hlship"; >
You are hearing my frustration with the entire Maven infrastructure and the fact the default response of the community is always "that's not Maven's problem; your build/plugin/approach is broken." > First of all, one plugin does not represent the entire Maven project. Second, > the assumption that we are all here to jump at your beck and call is > offensive. Perhaps your approach is what earns you "pitifully absent" > response. Alas, just the oppopsite. It seems necessary to throw a temper tantrum to get any attention at all. The many other people who have posted on mailing lists and blogs about the same problem have been ignored. > > Third, it's open source and patches are welcome. Patching Maven is a bit difficult, since often, it is not possible to: a) Determine which plugin is the problem b) Match a class name in a stack trace to a plugin c) Locate the plugin's home page d) Locate the source for the plugin e) Determine which version of a plugin is in effect, and why (due to transitive dependencies of plugins) f) Understand the code, since the Maven standard is to NOT comment code (and, on top of that, much code is generated mechanically from XML) So Maven encourages a pattern of forced helplessness upon its users. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hls...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:31 PM > To: Maven Users List > Subject: Re: Maven Archetype Plugin is Hosed --- and nobody cares > > Yes, that's the bug I added and mentioned in my posting to this mailing list. > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-236 >> >> Martin >> ______________________________________________ >> Disclaimer and confidentiality note >> This message is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the >> intended recipient, we kindly ask you to please inform the sender. Any >> unauthorised dissemination or copying hereof is prohibited. This message >> serves for information purposes only and shall not have any legally binding >> effect. Given that e-mails can easily be subject to manipulation, we can not >> accept any liability for the content provided. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:31:54 -0700 >>> Subject: Maven Archetype Plugin is Hosed --- and nobody cares >>> From: hls...@gmail.com >>> To: users@maven.apache.org >>> >>> Recently, the Maven archetype plugin has broken in an incompatible >>> way. Documented here http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/ARCHETYPE-236. >>> >>> New archetypes (generated from the same source as previously working >>> ones) no longer work. >>> >>> The problem is wide spread: >>> >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=The%20META-INF%2Fmaven%2Farchetype.xml%20descriptor%20cannot%20be%20found >>> >>> this appears to be a backwards-incompatible change to the plugin. >>> >>> So far, the Maven development community has been unresponsive (i.e., >>> 5+ days since I added the bug, no comments). >>> >>> Does anyone out in Maven-land have a workaround? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> >>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. >> http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009 > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
