I would not jump to just saying "that's totally wrong ..." when there
is truth to the observation. I cannot speak for Tobago, but there are
areas of Trinidad that have not significantly changed in years. This
may give the impression that there is not much ongoing development.
What you find with Trinidad is that the server side framework is very
well supported, as well as the components classes, but the Renderers,
skins and JavaScript of Trinidad are very much neglected.

This is probably a result of many that extend Trinidad but do not
necessarily contribute those extensions back. There is a Trinidad
Sandbox, but unlike Tomahawk, there is no activity in it for the most
part. I am not sure why this is and what we can do to motivate our
users to provide new components and enhancements to existing
components.

So as a result, you will probably find that Trinidad is very solid,
the server side keeps up to date with other libraries and with some
new JSF technologies and there is a great community of support at the
framework level. Just what is lacking is active support of the
component offerings and the look and feel of Trinidad.

As Apache relies on its users quite a bit, new patches, and new
components are welcome, especially for the sandbox as it is a great
testing ground for new ideas without having to perform all the
architectural discussions up front. Then components can be brought
into the core as they gain popularity and their architecture can be
standardized if not already.

-Andrew

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Christian Groove
> <groo...@groovesytems.de> wrote:
>> Salut
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> We are developing a web application with myfaces.
>>>
>>
>> That's fine, JSF is the cool think. I worked with
>> Tobago, that comes with a great layout manager
>> and some cool widgets.
>>
>> It is not my intention to overwhelm that nice
>> project but it seems to be dead. The development
>
> that's totally wrong ...
>
>> of new widgets seems not to proceed so you may
>> better look to other Taglibs like Richfaces, Icefaces.
>>
>> Groovy
>>>
>>> This application needs proper navigation and UI .I have observed Trinidad
>>> has good navigation practices and other utilities.Tobago has some good
>>> layouts but not good navigation practices.both these technologies have
>>> featurs like PPR.
>>>
>>> could some one plaese advice us which is the better technology and the
>>> distinct features of these technologies.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Srikanth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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