Hi Scott, MyFaces in its core _Runtime.js also uses some inheritance
framework, you basically currently get single inheritance, namespacing
singletons and delegation.
What I have not provided yet due to the lack of need is mixins.
Also I have code to lazy load scripts etc...
I coded it because I felt it made sense to stay on the oo side of things
even if it was just for jsf.js which has a limited scope and
so others who do not want to rely on a big framework like yui can get
basic OO into their own code without having to roll their own solution
(mostly Tomahawk was my main concern here which has a load of scripts
which would benefit tremendously from being ooed)
But I would not recommend our core as sole base for an entirely newly
written renderer part of a component framework, because it is limited in
its scope, of providing the core language mechanism and some dom
routines to get a good maintainable structuring into jsf.js and make
browser optimizations somewhat easier.
Just wanted to add that as info.
Werner
Am 12.03.11 23:11, schrieb Scott O'Bryan:
Yes, ADF Faces. The two share a similar API but ADFFces is much more rich.
It has animations, push technologies, and some other things. The
client-side JavaScript has been re-engineered as well and while it uses
Trinidad as the foundation, there is a lot more on the client side.
Suffice to say that ADFFaces javascipt uses an inheritance framework that is
a little more robust then standard JS inheritance patterns. We would have
to rip that out and allow he MyFaces projects to replace it with their own
grammars.
Scott
On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Walter Mourão<walter.mou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Scott,
I know Oracle, for instance, has a very large renderkit extension
which is based on Trinidad Internals. Now it's mostly geared toward
support of web business applications, but it really shows what can be
done with the framework.
Do you mean ADF Rich Faces ?
Why do you say "it's mostly geared toward support of web business
applications" ? what are the differences with the application that are done
currently with Trinidad ? Do you know if the ADF Rich Faces client code uses
some external (non-Oracle) javascript package ?
Thanks in advance,
Walter Mourão
http://waltermourao.com.br
http://arcadian.com.br
http://oriens.com.br
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Scott O'Bryan<darkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Walter,
Yeah, while creating a new renderkit isn't trivial, the Trinidad
internals and API really lend themselves to allowing extensions to the
framework.
I know Oracle, for instance, has a very large renderkit extension
which is based on Trinidad Internals. Now it's mostly geared toward
support of web business applications, but it really shows what can be
done with the framework.
I really would like to see a project like this get some traction
personally. ;)
Scott
On Mar 6, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Walter Mourão<walter.mou...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Dominik.
Just to be clear: the aim is not simply compete...
I think Trinidad has:
- rock solid back-end;
- support to non-javascript browser (I have applications running in old
data
collectors - windows mobile)
...
and I would like to keep most of the java code untouched when migrating
my
applications to an "up to date UI".
I am personally highly involved in another open source project and I
don't
have much experience with JSF/Trinidad internals. I am not sure I can
help
much in such a task (create the new render kit), but I'm experimenting to
see if I should go ahead with Trinidad or just migrate to another
library.
Best regards,
Walter Mourão
http://waltermourao.com.br
http://arcadian.com.br
http://oriens.com.br
2011/3/6 Dominik Dorn<domi...@dominikdorn.com>
If you're really want to compete with PrettyFaces, IceFaces, RichFaces
etc.,
I suggest to take a look at
http://demo.sproutcore.com/sample_controls/
http://www.sproutcore.com
and rebuilt those for JSF.
Sproutcore is currently quite hyped in twitter and gains a lot of
interest, especially
in the rails community.
2011/3/6 Walter Mourão<walter.mou...@gmail.com>:
Hi folks,
following the thread "Concerns about the future of Trinidad" I would
like
to
know the opinions about the "best' Javascript package to use as a base
to
a
new Trinidad render kit.
JQuery<http://jquery.org/>
Dojo Toolkit<http://dojotoolkit.org/>
(another options ?)
What do you think ? what about the licensing ?
Thanks,
Walter Mourão
http://waltermourao.com.br
http://arcadian.com.br
http://oriens.com.br
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