hi alexey,

if it used to work, it should still work -> please file an issue and i'll
check it.
(it would be great, if you can provide a simple demo-app which illustrates
the issue.)

regards,
gerhard

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2013/11/12 Alexey Shakov <alexey.sha...@menta.de>

> Hi Gerhard,
>
> thank you for the explanation, i understand the background.
>
> But what would be the solution for my problem?
> I use validation constraints in the form of jpa, jsr-303 and also
> extval-specific annotations. All I need is just to skip JSF-Validation of
> empty fields for some GUI-Actions (immediate=true is not an option, since i
> need intermediately save the values in my conversation-scoped bean).
>
> Earlier (with MyFaces 1.2.x) I've used extval with bypass-addon for this
> purpose. Since MyFaces  2.1.x this combination does not work.
>
> Can you give please some hints? I think, it is a very common case for each
> more or less complicated web-app, when the user fills the properties of
> some session- (or conversation-) scoped) java-bean having intermediate
> Ajax-requests (JSF-Actions) at the background.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alexey
>
> Am 11.11.2013 23:40, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
>
>  hi alexey,
>>
>> #1 is supported by [1]
>> and
>> #2 is supported by [2]
>>
>> extval started with [1] and [2] was added later on (once bv was finished).
>> extval itself doesn't force specific constraint-rules (-> it was possible
>> to support #1 with [1]).
>> however, since [2] delegates most parts to the bv-implementation of your
>> choice and bv forces specific constraint-rules, [2] can't support #1.
>> (fyi: a jpa-provider can support #2 as well)
>>
>> regards,
>> gerhard
>>
>> [1]
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>> validator/trunk/validation-modules/property-validation/
>> [2]
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/
>> validator/trunk/validation-modules/bean-validation/
>>
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>>
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>> 2013/11/11 Alexey Shakov <alexey.sha...@menta.de>
>>
>>  Hi Gerhard,
>>>
>>> thank you for a quick answer.
>>>
>>> I thought, that from JSF-Validation perspective following two notations
>>> must be the same:
>>>
>>> #1:
>>>
>>>
>>> @Column(name="NAME", length=80, nullable=false)
>>> private String name;
>>>
>>> #2
>>>
>>> @NotNull
>>> @Size (max=80)
>>> private String name;
>>>
>>>
>>> It is still not clear for me, why they are differently handled by
>>> @BeanValidation(useGroups = SkipValidation.class)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alexey
>>>
>>> Am 11.11.2013 15:12, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
>>>
>>>   hi alexey,
>>>
>>>> there are 2 different validation-modules:
>>>> #1 property-validation (= extval-constraints + jpa-based validation)
>>>> #2 bean-validation (= better jsf-integration of bv)
>>>>
>>>> they follow different concepts -> with @BeanValidation (provided by #2)
>>>> you
>>>> can't control jpa-based validation (provided by #1).
>>>> further details are available at [1].
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> gerhard
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/EXTVAL_Chapter
>>>>
>>>> http://www.irian.at
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>>>>
>>>> 2013/11/11 Alexey Shakov <alexey.sha...@menta.de>
>>>>
>>>>   Hi *,
>>>>
>>>>> I use Annotation "@BeanValidation(useGroups = SkipValidation.class)" on
>>>>> my
>>>>> action method to ignore the validation constraints, if it getting
>>>>> called
>>>>> from JSF-facelet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed, that this annotation works good for "standalone"
>>>>> constraints, such as @NotNull or @Size, but not for @Column.
>>>>> In my case, I have a Hibernate-Entity with a name-property, annotated
>>>>> like
>>>>> this:
>>>>>
>>>>> @Column(name="NAME", length=80, nullable=false)
>>>>> private String name;
>>>>>
>>>>> This property is getting always validated (length and not-null check),
>>>>> regardless of "@BeanValidation(useGroups = SkipValidation.class)"-
>>>>> annotation
>>>>> on corresponding action method.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a reason for this behavior? Did I misunderstand something?
>>>>>
>>>>> (I use MyFaces 2.1.13, MyFaces extval 2.0.7, hibernate-validator
>>>>> 5.0.1.Final)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>

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