And it's not going to become common in the consumer market if it keeps being threatened with abandonment, discontinuance, etc. Perhaps becoming open source will give people confidence it will be around for a while. Unfortunately, integration with other MS desktop offerings holds a powerful influence over the desktop which, itself, is NOT a niche market.
Getting developers on the same page is kind of like herding cats. But imagine, if you will, what could happen if NB was integrated with ODFToolkit, PDFBox, James and other Apache products to produce something with Java that could compete with MS for the desktop niche (actually, monopoly) -- one install that provides a development environment, an office suite, mail and calendar, etc. based on open protocols (including API). We can cobble it all together presently but OEMs like (need) a single install. And do not fail to understand it is the ability to integrate with desktop apps (like Office, Outlook, etc.) that makes a Windows desktop (and marketshare) compelling for software houses. I enjoy it all on Linux but most people are not motivated enough to cobble it all together so Windows is the default because MS has cobbled it all together for them and provided an API to integrate everything -- otherwise referred to as "vendor lock-in". On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:12 AM Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > The Java desktop, again, is not so common for the consumer marker, but all > the more so for large back office systems. > > Gj > > >
