On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Miroslav Nachev < mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it's a real pity, that so many years in Java world there is a gap for > Desktop programming. The Java world has been waiting for JavaFX for over 20 > years. Swing and AWT were a failure for Java and Desktop applications in > the Java world. > ...except for applications at NASA, NATO, Boeing, Airbus, etc etc etc. I.e., scientific applications behind the scenes in back offices everywhere. Here are some of them: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/on+top+of+NetBeans Indeed, though, consumer applications have increasingly moved to mobile phones and to browsers generally. But for scientific applications, there's a lot for the Java desktop to be proud of. :-) Gj > This was one of the serious reasons, Microsoft .NET has overtaken Java in > many ways. > > Why repeat the same mistake so many times? > From all animal species, only the Human repeats the same mistake more than > once. > > > Miro. > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Microsoft will continue laughing all the way to the bank as long as they >> can keep the Java crowd believing their desktop monopoly is just a niche >> market. In the US small businesses are the largest employer segment and we >> live on a desktop. More and more of them with larger and larger screens. >> Of course, we also use browsers for web access and cell phones to talk with >> each other. But we get our work done with a desktop client/server >> application for the most part; and no, we don't want to have to try to get >> anything done with something as crude as a browser interface. That should >> be more than apparent from the recent rash of class action lawsuits that >> have been filed against Oracle's attempt to force customers to a browser >> interface. We simply don't want it in small businesses. Long live the >> niche!! >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 12:56 PM Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> wrote: >> >>> Both Swing and JavaFX are niche technologies, and I'd question the value >>> of porting a large existing application from one to another. >>> >>> >>> >
