Thanks Wade.  Next time this happens, I will be sure to copy/paste the
entire JVM stack trace that gets shown when "Report..." is selected.
That'll at least tell us if it's the same 2d bug.
tom

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:11 PM Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org>
wrote:

> See this too
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6cea044b220876ef9eba9068e3ec28bb8283e116b65e3ea4078af9c1@%3Cusers.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> I was thinking perhaps it was due to an older JDK build, but we were
> talking 1.8 range, and with you having it in Java 11 then not sure. The
> linked Java 2D bug is still open, so this may be an opportunity for us to
> try to track it down.
>
> Wade
>
> On Apr 17, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Thomas Wolf <tjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, this doesn't happen on a regular basis.  I upgraded to NB 11 a few
> weeks ago and it's happened 3-4 times so far.  And it invariably happens
> while NB is not even being used (e.g. a bit after I come in to work,
> reconnecting my 2 external monitors to my MBP and while I'm reading news or
> mail; NB is iconified or hidden behind the current window.)  I'm not even
> sure whether NB 11 is to blame or the JRE.  When I switched from NB 8.2 to
> NB 11, I also switched from a Java 8 VM to a Java 11 VM - maybe it's a bug
> in the VM.  When a VM crashes on a Mac, does it produce a core dump
> somewhere?
>
> Thnx,
> Tom
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 2:08 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> If you can provide a way for the problem to be reproduced, or the log
>> files exactly at the moment where the crash happens, we can try to
>> investigate.
>>
>> But if I understand it correctly, this only happens after you’re using
>> multiple monitors, switching things off, switching things on, leaving work,
>> coming home, switching off and on, and a few other things like that?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 13:36, Thomas Wolf <tjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Geertjan,
>>> This was a crash of the NB JVM, so I didn't think NB would have had an
>>> opportunity to write anything before it croaked.  But I went to Application
>>> Support/NetBeans/11.0/var/log and checked there to see if there was the
>>> equivalent of a core dump.  But just the messages.  Since  I had restarted
>>> NB since the crash, I looked in messages.log.1 to see if there were any
>>> messages prior to the crash.  Looking back a couple hundred lines back from
>>> the end of the log, I see:
>>>           WARNING
>>> [org.netbeans.modules.javascript2.editor.formatter.FormatContext]: Tried to
>>> remove EOL
>>>           WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>>>           WARNING [null]: Last record repeated again.
>>>
>>> followed by 167 WARNING messages like this:
>>>           WARNING
>>> [org.netbeans.modules.editor.bracesmatching.MasterMatcher]: Origin offsets
>>> out of range, origin = [671, 698], caretOffset = 727,
>>>           lookahead = 1, searching forward. Offending BracesMatcher:
>>> org.netbeans.modules.html.editor.HtmlBracesMatching@1293bde1
>>>
>>> with only the coordinates & the caretOffset changing.  Followed by the
>>> WARNING message:
>>>           WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.versioning.util.Utils]:
>>> associateEncoding() no file object available for
>>>
>>> /var/folders/gz/86n0ss0j65q2v4mk50wfnx8h0000gn/T/vcs-1555092873422/vcs-1555362477084/index.html
>>>
>>> followed by the WARNING message:
>>>           WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time
>>> in AWT thread null
>>>
>>> followed by three WARNING messages like this one:
>>>           WARNING [org.netbeans.core.TimableEventQueue]: too much time
>>> in AWT thread org.netbeans.modules.sampler.InternalSampler@662b36a1
>>>
>>> That's it.  Since there are no time stamps on any of these entries, I
>>> have no idea whether these happened just before the crash or hours/days
>>> before.  Is there anywhere else I should/could be looking for clues?  Is
>>> this info enough to go on to open a Jira ticket?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>> p.s. here's the beginning of the log file:
>>>
>>> >Log Session: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 2:14:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>> >System Info:
>>>   Product Version         = Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
>>> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>>>   Operating System        = Mac OS X version 10.14.4 running on x86_64
>>>   Java; VM; Vendor        = 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
>>> 11.0.1+13-LTS; Oracle Corporation
>>>   Runtime                 = Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
>>>   Java Home               =
>>> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home
>>>   System Locale; Encoding = en_US (nb); UTF-8
>>>   Home Directory          = /Users/thwolf
>>>   Current Directory       = /
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 11:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You’re always going to find NetBeans messages and log files in the user
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 11:47, Thomas Wolf <tjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Josh for your environment.  Here's mine (should have included
>>>>> that with my initial post):
>>>>> Build incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>>>>> Java: 11.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.1+13-LTS
>>>>> Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 11.0.1+13-LTS
>>>>> System: Mac OS X version 10.14.4
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a much more recent version of Java and macOS than you.  I
>>>>> won't change my OS for NB, but if I get desperate, I might try going back
>>>>> to Java 8.  But I wasn't really looking for a workaround - it doesn't
>>>>> happen all that frequently and I simply restart the IDE.  No big deal.  
>>>>> But
>>>>> it is a pretty severe bug and I wanted to file a Jira ticket (if one
>>>>> doesn't already exist) and provide relevant log/crash info.  I posted
>>>>> because I was looking for someone to point me to where, on the Mac, to 
>>>>> look
>>>>> for such crash info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 10:30 AM Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is perhaps something specific in your environment, as I have
>>>>>> been using NetBeans 11 daily (all day) without crashes on OS X.  Just so
>>>>>> you have the details of my environment and can perhaps try to configure
>>>>>> similarly to see if it helps:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Product Version:  Apache NetBeans IDE 11.0 (Build
>>>>>> incubator-netbeans-release-404-on-20190319)
>>>>>> Java:  1.8.0_202-b05; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server (Azul Zulu JDK)
>>>>>> System:  Mac OS X Version 10.13.6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, you may wish to try and start with a new user directory to see
>>>>>> if that helps.  Perhaps there is something in your current user directory
>>>>>> that is not functioning, as expected, and causing the crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 9:04 AM Thomas Wolf <tjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is about the 3rd or 4th time NB11 (the vc4 unofficial installer
>>>>>>> pointed to from NB download page) has crashed while I'm not using it.  
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> macOS dialog that comes up just lets me send a crash report to Apple.  
>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>> it worthwhile to retrieve the crash report from somewhere (where?) and
>>>>>>> copy/paste it into a Jira ticket I can write on NB?  Given that it was a
>>>>>>> hard crash (core dump?), is there some other place I should look for 
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> Java/NB specific crash info?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, I wasn't even using Netbeans - it was either iconified or
>>>>>>> sitting behind some other window.  Also, each time it happened after I
>>>>>>> disconnected from external monitors (NB was displaying to one of them),
>>>>>>> closed my Mac, opened the Mac at home (with no external monitors), 
>>>>>>> closed,
>>>>>>> and then re-opened at work after reconnecting the external monitors.  
>>>>>>> Crash
>>>>>>> happened awhile later (1hr?).  Again, I hadn't used NB since before the
>>>>>>> disconnect from the external monitors.  Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> tjw...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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>
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