I love this thread, how it developed will be the basis of several sessions I will be doing — essentially about everything that is truly good and truly bad about open source (i.e., shared ownership) development.
Gj On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 21:00, joe foe <jfoe8...@gmail.com> wrote: > You learn something new everyday! . Is there a complete list of all these > parameters? > > > > Regards, > JoeFoe > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 20:09 Mark Eggers, <its_toas...@yahoo.com.invalid> > wrote: > >> I did not know that - cool! >> >> . . . just my two cents >> /mde/ >> On 2/20/2020 10:59 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: >> > Start Netbeans with: >> > >> > -J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=<whatever you want> >> > >> > you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well >> > >> > On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> >> I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and >> >> then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking / >> wasn't >> >> easy to change. >> >> >> >> Instead, how about the following: >> >> >> >> I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project >> >> creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is >> >> there one? >> >> >> >> Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to >> >> chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that >> >> allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on >> >> the mailing list. Thanks. >> >> >> >> Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that >> >> sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request. >> >> >> >> Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during >> >> project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in >> >> different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part >> >> of my normal work flow. YMMV >> >> >> >> . . . just my two cents. >> >> /mde/ >> >> >> >> On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote: >> >>> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I >> did >> >>> read: no, you got me wrong. >> >>> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to >> >>> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get >> >>> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives >> me >> >>> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a >> >>> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file. >> >>> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to >> have >> >>> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to >> >>> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has >> nothing >> >>> to do with per-user settings at all. >> >>> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since >> >>> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from >> >>> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask >> >>> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where >> >>> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard >> >>> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms >> followed >> >>> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with >> >>> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help - >> >>> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and >> offer >> >>> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+ >> >>> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly: >> >>> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone >> >>> couldn't decide just where to put it. >> >>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any >> >>> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the >> compiler - >> >>> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at >> >>> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of >> >>> devs could get this done in the time this exists. >> >>> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some >> >>> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess >> >>> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact >> >>> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's >> the >> >>> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails >> >>> done in every beginners for dummies book? >> >>> >> >>> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I >> told >> >>> to do .. >> >>> >> >>> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers: >> >>>> First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user. >> >>>> >> >>>> Second of all, this is just my opinion. >> >>>> >> >>>> So let me try to understand your problem first. >> >>>> >> >>>> 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk >> >>>> >> >>>> This is different than where your user profile is stored. I >> understand >> >>>> this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD >> >>>> drive. >> >>>> >> >>>> 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk >> >>>> >> >>>> 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk >> >>>> >> >>>> The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong >> >>>> location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive >> letters >> >>>> have changed or directories have changed. >> >>>> >> >>>> In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache. >> >>>> >> >>>> The best solution is to: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more >> >>>> projects >> >>>> >> >>>> As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not >> >>>> something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's >> >>>> not >> >>>> trivial. >> >>>> >> >>>> Just don't do it. >> >>>> >> >>>> 2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory. >> >>>> >> >>>> In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the >> IDE. >> >>>> >> >>>> As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This >> is a >> >>>> JDK limitation. >> >>>> >> >>>> If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with >> source >> >>>> and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option >> >>>> that >> >>>> I can see. >> >>>> >> >>>> a. Install JDK / JRE 8 along with JDK / JRE 11. >> >>>> b. In Tools->Java Platforms, register the JDK 8 platform >> >>>> c. In the project Properties->Build->Compile panel, configure the >> >>>> project to use the registered JDK 8 Java Platform >> >>>> >> >>>> I do this all the time, as I'm trying to get a company I consult for >> to >> >>>> move from J2EE 2.5 / Tomcat 7 to servlet spec 4 and Tomcat 9. >> >>>> >> >>>> I do this on Windows 10 Professional, with the last Oracle JRE / JDK >> 8 >> >>>> and AdoptOpenJDK 11.0.6 installed from the zip file. >> >>>> >> >>>> The only time things get unpleasant is if I try to build a JDK 5 >> >>>> project >> >>>> from the command line, since my default Java is 11.0.6. >> >>>> >> >>>> . . . just my two cents >> >>>> /mde/ >> >>>> >> >>>> On 2/19/2020 3:56 PM, cryptearth wrote: >> >>>>> I know at least someone will feel offended no matter how polite I >> >>>>> try to >> >>>>> write my response, hence I try to just repeat the question instead >> of >> >>>>> responding to the reply (I guess someone who read carefully might >> >>>>> notice >> >>>>> what I mean and try to avoid to say out loud): >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Is there a way to (re-)set the default projects folder? >> >>>>> And why is it that almost any answer you get when you ask google >> about >> >>>>> this very topic points to file I mentioned? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Matt >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Am 20.02.2020 um 00:23 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: >> >>>>>> Do not change that file, do not touch it. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The file you need, if what you want is define the JDK to use to >> start >> >>>>>> NetBeans, is "etc/netbeans.conf" in the installation directory. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Gj >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:22 AM cryptearth < >> cryptea...@cryptearth.de >> >>>>>> <mailto:cryptea...@cryptearth.de>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Well, I wrote my mail to soon before even try it myself - as >> I >> >>>>>> have to add: No matter what I put into the mentioned >> properties >> >>>>>> file it doesn't change the default path NB uses. I also >> >>>>>> tried to >> >>>>>> find it in other config files and even in the windows >> >>>>>> registry - >> >>>>>> but had no luck. So, as manual edit a config file referred >> >>>>>> to on >> >>>>>> many resulst found by google, and as there seem no option in >> >>>>>> the >> >>>>>> GUI I can change - how do I change the default folder? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Matt >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Am 20.02.2020 um 00:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: >> >>>>>>> Np, you never need to edit "projectui.properties". >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Gj >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:12 PM cryptearth >> >>>>>>> <cryptea...@cryptearth.de <mailto:cryptea...@cryptearth.de >> >> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB >> >>>>>>> 11.2 >> >>>>>>> set up >> >>>>>>> again but didn't got any dialog about default project >> >>>>>>> folder. >> >>>>>>> As I got >> >>>>>>> through google this has to be done manual by editing >> >>>>>>> the file >> >>>>>>> projectui.properties located in >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Two simple questions: >> >>>>>>> 1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least >> >>>>>>> NB 6.x? >> >>>>>>> 2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as >> it >> >>>>>>> should, for >> >>>>>>> example allow setting target java version below 6 when a >> >>>>>>> compiler >> >>>>>>> version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is >> >>>>>>> only >> >>>>>>> supported >> >>>>>>> down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to >> >>>>>>> give >> >>>>>>> a developer >> >>>>>>> some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead >> >>>>>>> Netbeans >> >>>>>>> require I'm >> >>>>>>> not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't >> get >> >>>>>>> Eclipse to >> >>>>>>> even launch properly, let alone set up a project. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Matt >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >>>>>>> users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> >>>>>>> <mailto:users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org> >> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >>>>>>> users-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >>>>>>> <mailto:users-h...@netbeans.apache.org> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing >> lists, >> >>>>>>> visit: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> >>> >> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > >> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > >> >> >>
