Thanx Geertjan,  I have the strong feeling this is application independent
and hence I will simply run Nb8.2 on the Alienware and see if it fails just
using Nb8.2. I will keep you posted. First I go the naive way (hope) and
try jdk16 ... ;-)

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 7:27 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Can you create a small Swing app to try to reproduce there?
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 14:26, bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bummer, still happens with jdk 11. It is the entire outer window which
>> jumps and leaves droppings/copies of itself when fx moving mouse accross  I
>> start wondering if there is a problem with the laptop. On the other hand it
>> only happens with the NetBeans RPC app. Regardless if using Nvidea card or
>> Intels integrated.
>>
>> Will try jdk17 if possible .... mysterious
>>
>> On Thu, May 6, 2021, 14:01 bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Laszlo,, you are a hero !   I downloaded the OpenJDK 11 and just copied
>>> the entire folder into my NetBeans 8.2 RCP app (build on jdk8) and renamed
>>> the jkd11 folder to "jre" - Voila !  I just looooove Java, it surprises me
>>> even again and again even after coding for 2 decades with it. Of course,
>>> lots of testing needs to be done but so far it looks like a work-around. We
>>> will have the app running all day tomorrow on jdk11 to see if it "creeps
>>> back to the flicker madness".
>>>
>>> Of course the biggest thanks is to all the people involved making jdk11
>>> (and later versions) and keeping it compatible and allowing normal mortals
>>> like me to stay "clueless" -  as Jaroslav so nicely puts it - about all the
>>> underlying plumbing which was changed.
>>>
>>> Thanks !
>>> Bernd
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:35 AM bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ahh, ok good point !  I will try running NetBeans with jdk 11 (OpenJdk)
>>>> on the Alienware and see how it goes. Thank you for your interest and
>>>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Bests
>>>> Bernd
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:24 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd put my bet on the JDK AWT VRAM handling, so when I suggested
>>>>> upgrade JDK, I meant upgrading it to a more recent version than 1.8. I'd
>>>>> Try JDK 11 first, if that's still do not work I'd test more recent ones...
>>>>> On 5/6/21 8:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe Swing-specific, so try reproduce with another Swing app or
>>>>> create a new small Swing app yourself to reproduce the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 16:55, bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanx. Tried 1.8u202 (latest I can use without commercial license)
>>>>>> and it happened as well after a while. Hmm ... currently only on 
>>>>>> Alienware
>>>>>> laptop.  ... wicket. Anyhow here running NetBeans on a Gaming laptop 
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> trouble  ?  It looks like a generic problem and hence just running 
>>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>>> should cause the same issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow, thank you for your suggestion
>>>>>> Bernd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:04 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try to upgrade your JDK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/5/21 7:53 AM, bruehlicke wrote:
>>>>>>> > We have a mature NetBeans 8.2 app with Java 1.8u112 running on Win
>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>> > without any problems. Now we got an Alienware and from time to
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> > the app becomes unusable as the different windows within the app
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> > moving randomly around when fx just moving the mouse. I do not
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> > use the work "flickering" as that is not describing it correctly.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> > is like the old mouse droppings we have seen, just on the entire
>>>>>>> > windows on the app.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > We have tried
>>>>>>> > 1) To turn off the Nvidea card and use the interval Intel graphic
>>>>>>> > after which it worked for a while but came back
>>>>>>> > 2) Vica versa turning off Intel  same result.
>>>>>>> > 3) Reboot usually naked it work for a while
>>>>>>> > 4) It happens on both internal and external monitors.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I know, it sounds like Sci-Fi. Just wanted to see if anyone out
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> > has had a similar issue and maybe even found a work-around.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Until now we have only seen this on Alienware machines. So it
>>>>>>> MIGHT be
>>>>>>> > a SciFi effect ;-)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Bests
>>>>>>> > Bernd
>>>>>>> >
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