... ok (naive) as I expected. With OpenJdk16 the RCP only launches the
splash screen and hereafter dies ... ok so jdk11 is the upper limit. Good
to know.  I will gather the exact specs of the laptop as well as install
Nb8.2 on it to see if it fails just using Nb82. out of the box.

B-)


On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 9:13 AM bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanx Geertjan,  I have the strong feeling this is application independent
> and hence I will simply run Nb8.2 on the Alienware and see if it fails just
> using Nb8.2. I will keep you posted. First I go the naive way (hope) and
> try jdk16 ... ;-)
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 7:27 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you create a small Swing app to try to reproduce there?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 14:26, bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bummer, still happens with jdk 11. It is the entire outer window which
>>> jumps and leaves droppings/copies of itself when fx moving mouse accross  I
>>> start wondering if there is a problem with the laptop. On the other hand it
>>> only happens with the NetBeans RPC app. Regardless if using Nvidea card or
>>> Intels integrated.
>>>
>>> Will try jdk17 if possible .... mysterious
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021, 14:01 bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Laszlo,, you are a hero !   I downloaded the OpenJDK 11 and just copied
>>>> the entire folder into my NetBeans 8.2 RCP app (build on jdk8) and renamed
>>>> the jkd11 folder to "jre" - Voila !  I just looooove Java, it surprises me
>>>> even again and again even after coding for 2 decades with it. Of course,
>>>> lots of testing needs to be done but so far it looks like a work-around. We
>>>> will have the app running all day tomorrow on jdk11 to see if it "creeps
>>>> back to the flicker madness".
>>>>
>>>> Of course the biggest thanks is to all the people involved making jdk11
>>>> (and later versions) and keeping it compatible and allowing normal mortals
>>>> like me to stay "clueless" -  as Jaroslav so nicely puts it - about all the
>>>> underlying plumbing which was changed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !
>>>> Bernd
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:35 AM bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ahh, ok good point !  I will try running NetBeans with jdk 11
>>>>> (OpenJdk) on the Alienware and see how it goes. Thank you for your 
>>>>> interest
>>>>> and suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bests
>>>>> Bernd
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:24 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd put my bet on the JDK AWT VRAM handling, so when I suggested
>>>>>> upgrade JDK, I meant upgrading it to a more recent version than 1.8. I'd
>>>>>> Try JDK 11 first, if that's still do not work I'd test more recent 
>>>>>> ones...
>>>>>> On 5/6/21 8:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe Swing-specific, so try reproduce with another Swing app or
>>>>>> create a new small Swing app yourself to reproduce the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 16:55, bruehlicke <bruehli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanx. Tried 1.8u202 (latest I can use without commercial license)
>>>>>>> and it happened as well after a while. Hmm ... currently only on 
>>>>>>> Alienware
>>>>>>> laptop.  ... wicket. Anyhow here running NetBeans on a Gaming laptop 
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> trouble  ?  It looks like a generic problem and hence just running 
>>>>>>> NetBeans
>>>>>>> should cause the same issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyhow, thank you for your suggestion
>>>>>>> Bernd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:04 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>>>>>>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try to upgrade your JDK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/5/21 7:53 AM, bruehlicke wrote:
>>>>>>>> > We have a mature NetBeans 8.2 app with Java 1.8u112 running on
>>>>>>>> Win 10
>>>>>>>> > without any problems. Now we got an Alienware and from time to
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> > the app becomes unusable as the different windows within the app
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> > moving randomly around when fx just moving the mouse. I do not
>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>> > use the work "flickering" as that is not describing it correctly.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> > is like the old mouse droppings we have seen, just on the entire
>>>>>>>> > windows on the app.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > We have tried
>>>>>>>> > 1) To turn off the Nvidea card and use the interval Intel graphic
>>>>>>>> > after which it worked for a while but came back
>>>>>>>> > 2) Vica versa turning off Intel  same result.
>>>>>>>> > 3) Reboot usually naked it work for a while
>>>>>>>> > 4) It happens on both internal and external monitors.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I know, it sounds like Sci-Fi. Just wanted to see if anyone out
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> > has had a similar issue and maybe even found a work-around.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Until now we have only seen this on Alienware machines. So it
>>>>>>>> MIGHT be
>>>>>>>> > a SciFi effect ;-)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Bests
>>>>>>>> > Bernd
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
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