On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:39:03 -0500 Came this utterance formulated by Dan Presley to my mailbox:
> The court, *not me*, ruled Microsoft violated software patents in its > XML technology in Word 2003 and 2007. I never claimed otherwise. > I wasn't proclaiming anything. You claimed, proclaimed or whatever that Office 2010 (currently Office 14) won't breech the patent - but it will. It is not the program but the save format that is in breech of the patent. Microsoft wont drop the save format, and modifying it is difficult and would cost. > As to my *opinion* about this ruling not affecting M$ very much I > still stand by it -- call it BS if you want, the Lords of Redmond will > prove me right. They're just that huge; $100 million out of billions > is a small percentage of their revenue. $100 million is the wrong figure. Stop with the BS. There revenue like others in this time is declining. Partly due to the current economic state. Partly due to Vista rating somewhere alongside Windows ME as the worst windows released. Also due to the billion or so they have already to pay the European courts. This will also have an ongoing effect which may prove more painfull to them than the initial sting regardless if their solution is to continue to fight the court ruling, pay for the patent rights, or remove the offending options from the save format. > Are you just that lost in your arrogance, or are you a natural born > sphincter? Ah, petty name calling. Check it out below; I attacked your facts where i knew them to be wrong, until you can defend your indefensible 'facts' i will insist you wrote your original email in an altered state of mind. It certainly wasn't carefully weighed balanced opinion! When i see someone intentionally misleading with BS, i will say so. > Michael Adams wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:13:31 -0500 > > Came this utterance formulated by Dan Presley to my mailbox: > > > > > >> I just read the story on the Reuters news service. The ban affects > >> Word 2003 and 2007 only. With Office 2010 coming out soon, > >> Micro$oft's pocketbook won't be hardly affected. This version does > >> not use any of the patented software that led to the lawsuit and > >ban. > > > > > What are you smoking? First of all there is no patented software > > which led to the ban. The patent appies to a technique used in .docx > > save format. Microsoft will surely stick to the XML .docx and .docm > > formats. It is one that they poured millions into, to push through > > as an ISO standard in competition to the ODF format. > > > > The patent applies to a particular way Word applies a technology > > called custom XML to the document. In practise it means that the > > content(words contained in the document) are stored separately to > > the tags. The tags are listed with an index number which relates to > > the location in the content where they apply. something like: > > > > *CONTENT* > > HiHow are you? > > > > *TAGS* > > <h1> - 1 > > </h1> - 3 > > <p> - 3 > > </p> - 15 > > > > The i4i patent describes how the tags can be kept in a separate > > template as well. > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3712 > > http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5787449.PN.&OS=PN/5787449&RS=PN/5787449 > > The above link will probably wrap. If need be go here and type in > > 5787449: > > http://patft1.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm > > > > AFAICT this technique is not used within OO.o. To be honest, i did > > not know it was used in Word either. > > > > > >> Even if people will slowly upgrade to Win 7, the same can't be said > >> for the new version of Office. Besides M$ already has almost all > >the> money they'll make from Office 2003 and 2007. > >> > > > > Negate the smoking comment, you must be mainlining. This is serious > > bulls*!t. Office income has been dropping slightly but not as much > > as windows sales. Office has been reported as supporting Windows - > > mainly due to really bad Vista performance from the start! > > http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/earnings/2009-07-23-microsoft_N.htm > > http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY09/earn_rel_q4_09.mspx#Balance > > > > > > > >> The only thing that hurts the Lords of Redmond is the award and > >that> is only a drop in their gargantuan bucket. I really see no > >easing in> Microsoft's market dominance. > >> -- Michael All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
