James Mckenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Walter: First OpenOffice.org is NOT MY website. It is the community's website and thus can be changed.
**** I am sorry for not being clear. The context in which I was writing was that you are involved with a particular website and I am involved with a particular website. Mis-communication is a Hugh problem with both of our websites. One reason we might work well together is that each of our websites have Users who are coming from different points of view ( a different context) (different experiences with computers) (different vocabularies) . One advantage I have is that I know very, very little about computers and software therefore I have a point of view that matches most of the Users that come to my website. You probably have the advantage of having the same point of view as the Users of our website. **** What it does take is to have someone suggest acceptable changes to the site. **** I do not know what to suggest as acceptable changes to your website. In the past I offered to donate my website to your community and was told my site would be merged with the FAQs. That would have destroyed something that was making a positive contribution to OpenOffice. **** If your site is/has information that is desirable, then it should be included in the links from the OpenOffice.org site. **** The last time I looked, your website did have a link to my website. I have no information to know if that link has brought anyone to my website. My gut feeling is that from what Users have said in feedback, your link has gotten few if any Users to my website. I have daily referred one or two people to your website but their name almost never comes up in your User Group. I got some feedback from your community in the past that they were very concerned about splitting the community into different groups. Linux is a good example of the "different flavors" causing a problem by diving the efforts of good motivated people into "competing" groups. I acknowledge your concern. How do you and I cooperate so that we supplement each other and not that we compete? **** Again, I agree that the OpenOffice.org site is setup more for developers and needs a major rewrite to be more user friendly for new users. **** There are a lot of advanced Users using my website. There is a big difference in your and my approach. We can supplement each other for both new and experienced Users. Walter **** James McKenzie -----Original Message----- >From: Walter Hildebrandt >Sent: Dec 2, 2006 10:45 PM >To: users@openoffice.org, James Mckenzie >Subject: Re: [users] Joomla > >Yes, James I am confused. My intent is to see if your community website and >my non-profit website can cooperate for our mutual benefits. I respect the >fantastic job the OpenOffice community has and is doing. However, there is a >missing piece that my website is providing. My Users will not, or can not, >use your website. I constantly refer people to your website. Most do not try >your website. Of the few that do try your website, some come back to me >unsatisfied with your website. > >James Mckenzie wrote: Walter: > >Maybe you are confused here: > >Dreamweaver: HTML tool for site design. >FileZilla: FTP client to serve files from a file server. > >What were you trying to do that you need to replace/surplant Dreamweaver? And >what purpose are you using Dreamweaver for that another HTML content manager >cannot do? > >**** I do a "Save As" to convert files from the OpenOffice format to the html >format. The html always has a few problems but they are consistent and easy >to fix in Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver then posts the corrected html file. I am >looking for a Volunteer who can back me up in converting files to html and >posting on the server. The problem with Dreamweaver is the cost of the >software which Volunteers have not been willing to pay. If I were using an >open source (free) program in place of Dreamweaver, I think I would be able to >get a Volunteer to help. **** > >BTW, I know that the OpenOffice.org site NEEDS a major overhaul, especially >for users. Would you be willing to provide this kind of assistance. If you >want to see what a team of volunteers can do, look at >http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/index.html. We do have the restrictions >placed upon us by the web provider for the OpenOffice.org site. > >**** yes, I would be delighted to "provide this kind of assistance". How >would we go about this. > >BTW I am a retired 76 year old business owner who knew nothing at all about a >website and did not use OpenOffice. I wanted to learn OpenOffice and could >not find the help I needed so I started my website. I am no qualified in what >I am doing. I have always been able to come up with a Volunteer to bail me >out and provide the needed assistance to get things done. > >At this time there are two people. One suggesting I use FileZilla and >another suggesting I use Joomla. I do not know if I should take either of >their suggestions. The commonality of the two people is that they are both >college professors teaching computer science. One is active and the other is >retired. > >Walter **** > >James McKenzie > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Walter Hildebrandt >>Sent: Dec 1, 2006 11:58 PM >>To: users@openoffice.org >>Subject: Re: [users] Joomla >> >>Does anyone have any experience or comments in regards FileZilla? The main >>reason I am considering switching from Dreamweaver to FileZilla is that other >>Volunteers can backup me up and do the posting to the server. >> >>Pete Holsberg > wrote: Terry wrote: >> >>> Walter Hildebrandt wrote: >>>> I am involved with the website www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org Files >>>> in the OpenOffice format do a "Save As" to the HTML format. The HTML >>>> file is posted on our website using Dreamweaver. A Volunteer has >>>> suggested we use Joomla which is an open source Content Management >>>> System. Does anyone have experience with Joomla or any other Content >>>> Management Systems? >>> >>> No experience but there is a comparison on Wikipedia: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_content_management_systems >>> >> >>Dreamweaver is definitely not a CMS. Some confusion here. >> >>Walter, you can manage a website with FileZilla if you're using >>OOo to generate and edit web pages. >> >>Why don't you ask your volunteer how using a CMS would enhance >>your operation? >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Check out the all-new Yahoo! 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