* Sean M. Pappalardo <users@sogo.nu>: > > > On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas wrote: > >Since Mozilla is now trying even harder to kill Thunderbird ( > >https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model > > ), are there any alternative mail clients that are platform independent and > >support Cal-/CardDAV? > > What do you mean? That article only reads to me that Mozilla isn't > itself interested in making enhancements to Thunderbird, but will > continue to maintain it for security updates and community > contributions. This sounds fine to me because, besides LDAP editing > directly in Thunderbird, and a revamped address book (which is in > the works) what else does it even need?
Things that come to mind: - SIEVE and managesieve support - IMAP ACL support including a GUI to manage ACLs - a protocol independent addressbook - CardDAV support for addressbook - read/write LDAP support for addressbook incl. a cache for offline usage - notes - a reasonable way to set/entforce company wide policies for business use - enhanced autoconfiguration > It sounds to me like there's no cause for alarm. Everyone is moving to the cloud. Applications become web-applications. People like web applications because they don't need to configure them. They only need to login. Browsers are becoming universal clients executing any kind of application you can think of. Look at what the recent years added to browsers: Offline caches, HTML 5, ability to run C-code applications within the browser. The days of many desktop clients are counted. It makes sense for Mozilla to drop the desktop client "Thunderbird". It's time they moved on. Mozilla is the OSS Desktop Client Company per se and desktop clients are a dying species. That probably explains why they gather all ressources around Firefox OS. My problem with them dropping Thunderbird is, I don't see some important problems solved that should be solved before everyone uses webclients. Webclients assume you are always online, but - at least in Germany - being always online still is more of a marketing promise than a usable reality. I don't see how I would always have enough bandwidth to download everything required to run a fat web client that does mail. Neither do I see my browser being able to do what a mail client can do in offline mode. How would you use your mail/groupware client when you are offline in a browser? Tell a sales person he will have to use a webclient that does mail to download contract papers while he's on the road somewhere in the outback… But then - I was told so - that's not a problem for Mozilla because they never promised Thunderbird would be a good business mail client. Mozillas target group for Thunderbird was/is private users. So by their standards they aren't breaking a promise. Problem is: Thunderbird seems to be the only acceptable mail client that runs on all desktop platforms. When it will be gone costs will increase if you need to provide a groupware/mail client on more than one platform. The big question for me is: Thunderbird seems to play a major role in SOGos client model. What will SOGo/inverse do? Fork Thunderbird and maintain a dedicated SOGo client? Forget Thunderbird and focus on the web user interface? p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht München Partnerschaftsregister PR 563
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