Okay sounds good.  We will hold off then.  (Not that I like Edge any more than 
IE though … Ha ha ha …)

Thanks Christian.

~ Laz Peterson
Paravis, LLC

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:41 AM, Christian Mack (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) 
> <users@sogo.nu> wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Am 25.08.2016 um 00:54 schrieb "Laz C. Peterson" (l...@paravis.net 
> <mailto:l...@paravis.net>):
>> Hey there Christian,
>> 
>> So the Angular/IE issues are affecting everyone, yes?  
> 
> Everyone using V3 of SOGo.
> As V3 is based on Angular.
> 
> 
>> I am so surprised searching in SOGo lists and documentation that there is 
>> not more squabble about how bad IE 
>> runs the SOGo web interface.  Or I guess nobody is using IE … ?
>> 
> 
> Partly.
> I for one only know a handful of people using IE (we have ~18000 users).
> And when using SOGo V2 you don't have that problem at all, as it is not
> based on Angular.
> 
>> Maybe it is time for an explicit “SOGo does not support Internet Explorer” 
>> message when the user loads on IE.
>> 
> 
> It supports it, but only very slow ;-)
> And Angular will support Edge better in the long run.
> 
> 
> Kind regards.
> Christian Mack
> 
>> Bummer all the way around.
>> 
>> ~ Laz Peterson
>> Paravis, LLC
>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Christian Mack 
>>> (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) <users@sogo.nu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> Angular is provided/developed by Google delelopers.
>>> They decided to not optimize it for IE.
>>> 
>>> Before next year they don't add any new features to the current stable
>>> Angular version, because they are concentrating on the next Version.
>>> So there is nothing we or Inverse can do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Christian Mack
>>> 
>>> Am 23.08.2016 um 20:23 schrieb Galian Kile
>>> (julio.sandoval.teemkurr...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:julio.sandoval.teemkurr...@gmail.com> 
>>> <mailto:julio.sandoval.teemkurr...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:julio.sandoval.teemkurr...@gmail.com>>):
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> Just following up to see if anyone has any insight on this. I am still at a
>>>> standstill. The performance is unbearable and we really want to take
>>>> advantage of all the new features. Even though IE has only 5% of the
>>>> browser marketshare, that’s still 5% of users that SOGo is entirely
>>>> unusable for.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you all for your time.
>>>> 
>>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:24 AM, "Laz C. Peterson" <users@sogo.nu 
>>>> <mailto:users@sogo.nu>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, just tested with Edge … Definitely not as painful, but most definitely
>>>>> still unacceptably slow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Microsoft really has their priorities twisted inside out.  I can’t
>>>>> understand how every other browser has no issues, but theirs is a total
>>>>> train wreck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help or suggestion would be most greatly appreciated.  Thank you all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~ Laz Peterson
>>>>> Paravis, LLC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Laz C. Peterson (l...@paravis.net 
>>>>> <mailto:l...@paravis.net>) <
>>>>> users@sogo.nu <mailto:users@sogo.nu>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone have any insight to this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> We’ve been doing a bit more testing with IE, and wow it is really
>>>>> discouraging how much IE struggles.  I don’t know much about debugging
>>>>> webpage performance issues, so I couldn’t say whether the issue is related
>>>>> to javascript or CSS.  But I am very surprised nobody else has seen these
>>>>> issues with SOGo version 3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A bit of Google searching brings a lot of IE/Angular issue results, but
>>>>> that’s all a bit beyond me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Developers, is there something that can be disabled for IE-specific
>>>>> clients?  (I have not tested with Edge, but will do that today.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Though it doesn’t seem appropriate, but should a bug request be filed
>>>>> submitted for something like this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~ Laz Peterson
>>>>> Paravis, LLC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Laz C. Peterson (l...@paravis.net 
>>>>> <mailto:l...@paravis.net>) <
>>>>> users@sogo.nu <mailto:users@sogo.nu>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey there —
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have this issue as well.  The performance in IE11 is unbelievably slow,
>>>>> and it is completely unusable.  We do not let our clients use Chrome or
>>>>> Firefox, as the policies are not easy to enforce.  And we definitely don’t
>>>>> use IE because we love IE, in fact I really don’t like it at all … But 
>>>>> that
>>>>> is our only option based on client requirements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So until we can figure out what will improve performance, we can’t
>>>>> upgrade.  And we would really like to, since the new interface is really
>>>>> well done.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We went live for a test run yesterday, and between the IE performance
>>>>> issues and missing calendar events, the day did not go well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know if you figure anything out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~ Laz Peterson
>>>>> Paravis, LLC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Galian Kile (julio.sandoval.teemkurrupt@
>>>>> gmail.com <http://gmail.com/>) <users@sogo.nu <mailto:users@sogo.nu>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are having issues with Internet Explorer 11 and Angular JS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have noticed that any other browser (Chrome, Safari, Firefox), the
>>>>> website performs normal.
>>>>> When ran on IE11, it has a massive lag. Switching between sections can
>>>>> take over 8 seconds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone encountered this? What type of fixes are there to enhance the
>>>>> performance of Angular JS in IE11?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Julio Sandoval
> 
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