> -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: John D. Hardin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > > > So, I don't see the problem here: we are attempting to obtain > > information about or related to a domain name registration record. > > Doing it over and over and over from an automated tool can be > considered abusive when the service was intended to answer a > relatively small volume of manually-initiated queries. > > Caching can reduce the impact, but it may not reduce it below the > level considered abusive.
It depends upon how many e-mail you scan. In about 24h I just issued more or less 100 queries to the to several TLDs' whois servers. What is it, 10 queries per TLD? It doesn't seem too much to me... Also note today I'm probably not going to get the same numbers, thanks to caching. Of course, people scanning 1,000,000 messages a day would probably get banned: it would end in roughly 200,000 queries issued per day (say 8,000 per TLD). Ok, fine. Mine is not the final weapon, but I don't see other ways apart gathering data from every and each registrar delegated to maintain a given TLD... It seems to me that the main problem was due to the fact that ICANN delegated domain operations *and* database maintenance to at least one org per TLD, which means you have to gain access to at least 194 databases (no hope they being in similar format or shipped by similar protocols), not to mention .com, .net, .biz, etc. ones. One can, of course, push ICANN to redesign the terms of its grants, but, while this is not going to happen tomorrow, I would have a need for some surrogate right now, you know... I think there is a lot of people in this list who runs a small business like mine, and who may benefit from using the URIWhois plugin with no negative consequences. The others, well, they have influence and resources to spend in a "centralized solution". I can't afford it. Giampaolo PS: John, how can I "catch" when an outstanding asynchronous query times out in SA? > > -- > John Hardin KA7OHZ http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] > key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pelley: Will you pledge not to test a nuclear weapon? > Ahmadeinejad: CIA! Secret prison in Europe! Abu Ghraib! > -- Mahmoud Ahmadeinejad clumsily dodges a question > (60 minutes interview, 9/20/2007) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > 242 days until the Mars Phoenix lander arrives at Mars
