Hi, Scott, I'll give you my two cents here

2008/2/20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Looks like yo replied directly to me. I couldn't find your reply on the
> list yet?
> At any rate...
>
> The Bayes DB has been learned and in effect for a long time - years before
> my time.
>
> No ID's have changed or the config that has caused this error.
> I add users to the whitelist - and use sa-learn - that's it.
>
>
> 1.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam-email]$ sa-learn --dump magic
> 0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db version
> 0.000          0     797361          0  non-token data: nspam
> 0.000          0     665377          0  non-token data: nham
> 0.000          0     186483          0  non-token data: ntokens
> 0.000          0 1203464108          0  non-token data: oldest atime
> 0.000          0 1203536991          0  non-token data: newest atime
> 0.000          0 1203536443          0  non-token data: last journal sync
> atime
> 0.000          0 1203507419          0  non-token data: last expiry atime
> 0.000          0      43200          0  non-token data: last expire atime
> delta
> 0.000          0     101794          0  non-token data: last expire
> reduction count
>
>
> 2.
> sa-learn running as "amavis".
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam-email]$ id
> uid=503(amavis) gid=504(amavis) groups=504(amavis)
>
> 3.
> I think we are filtering with Spamd - how can I tell - in a config file or
> dir? (/etc/mail./spamassasin or /var/amavis/.spamassassin)
> I have both binaries...




[EMAIL PROTECTED] spam-email]$ which spamd
>
/usr/bin/spamd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam-email]$ which spamc
> /usr/bin/spamc
>
>
> 4.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ps axu | grep spamd
>
> root     18580  0.0  0.1  1736  588 pts/2    S    14:00   0:00 grep spamd



 Amavis loads the pertinent SA routines and code by itself, it doesn't call
SA OR Spamd at any moment.

>From what I've read, you SA-Amavis duo has been running from some time ago.
Anyway, I recommend you read the HOWTO by Gary V. It has some interesting
notes about the users under  Amavis runs, and other valuable material. It's
located here:

http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/


You could try running Amavis in debug mode (i.e., stop amavis and from the
command line type:

*# amavisd debug*-*sa

*
That will show you how Amavis treats the message. I do also suggest rising
the detail level in Amavis' logs

Anyway, my answer is getting totally OT here. You might have more luck
asking in the Amavis list.

Hope this helps,


Luis

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>  *John Hardin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
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> 02/20/2008 01:43 PM
>   To
> pichels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  cc
> users@spamassassin.apache.org  Subject
> Re: sa-learn "not" learning?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, pichels wrote:
>
> > But, I've tried learning any email after I recieved the Perl error
> > message and none are being learned?
> > And why is the spam being scored wioth spamassassin?
> > I don't understand? Could my Bayes DB need to be re-synced or forced to
> > expire some dups or ?
>
> Note that bayes needs at least 200 spams and 200 hams before is starts
> scoring. Have you learned that many yet?
>
> If you have kept your training corpus, you could delete the bayes database
>
> files entirely and start training over from scratch.
>
> > My users are getting the "nice girl emails and they are not scoring as
> I've
> > shown in my post - why?
> > They score with spamassassin debug but are not being stopped by SA in my
> > maillogs?
>
> That smells like a user ID problem. If the user ID that spamassassin/spamd
>
> is running under is different than the user ID you are running sa-learn
> under, the bayes databases are different - you're training a database that
>
> SA isn't looking at. Verify that you are training using the same user as
> the user spamassassin/spamd is running as to filter mail.
>
> > Can I provide more details?
>
> What does "sa-learn --dump magic" report?
>
> How are you filtering messages? spamc+spamd?
>
> What user is spamd running as? What user are you running sa-learn as?
>
> What (if anything) does "ps axu | grep spamd" report?
>
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