On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 03:36:53PM -0500, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote:
> On 02/16, Kris Deugau wrote:
> > Marc Perkel wrote:
> >> ...  Since your idea also
> >> requires blacklists to counter this effect then I'm still not sure what 
> >> this adds.
> >
> > *nod*  This is the biggest question I still see remaining;  who  
> > maintains the blacklist?  How many spams can come from an "MTX-approved"  
> > IP before it can/should be blacklisted?
> 
> Because I believe it will be far easier to maintain a list of IPs and / or
> domains which spam *and* use MTX, due to significant reduction in IPs they
> can spam from.  My last post went into more detail.

You keep "believing" without actually ever explaining anything in detail.
How is it easier? You STILL need global traps/feeds to have reasonable data
and reputation. Are you going to be the maintainer? I don't see how MTX
would help for example Spamhaus. They list everything anyway and it works
fine.

Some people do maintain own lists, but I don't understand how MTX helps them
blacklist either.

> The problem of deciding at which point you blacklist somebody is the reason
> why my blacklist implementation allows you to set an SA score for each
> domain.  So hosts which send legitimate email *and* spam you can give a
> score which only negates the effect of the MTX Pass.
> 
> The public blacklist implementation also allows for this distinction.

I'm sure you know that SA is not the only software/appliance out there.
Probably even the minority. Ijf you want to keep a list, it needs to be DNS
based anyway. Do you really think once a day update is enough for data which
can be old in matter of minutes?

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