COP cool acronym. What is wrong with conventions? (I have never used Rails)

Geoff

On 6/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, you want Tapestry to switch to convention-oriented programming (a la
Rails)?


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:20 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: custom namespace

+1 for that rant.


Geoff Longman wrote:

> Good God No!
>
> While I love the idea of auto discovery of libraries, every time I see
> a quick suggestion to use Hivemind I cringe.
>
> IMO HM is *required* to do too many everyday things in T4. HM should
> be relegated to use when the *implementation of the runtime* needs to
> be changed or enhanced because a convention doesn't handle a
> particular case. A normal everyday user should be able to build
> libraries, have full featured ASO's, and build services without ever
> writing a line of HM config.
>
> That puts a lot more pressure on the committers to identify the
> everyday tasks and find intelligent conventions for users to do
> something without writing HM code. That doesn't mean HM is out of the
> mix, it's just out of sight and available for those 1% cases where you
> just have to make Tap behave differently from the convention. Really,
> in a perfect world the Tapestry docs would make no reference to HM
> except in an appendix.
>
> end of rant!
>
> Geoff
>
> On 6/15/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It would be nice if the component libraries could add themselves to
>> the mix
>> via a HiveMind contribution.  Of course, they would allow "users" to
>> override their default namespace via a symbol override contribution or
>> something.  That's the way I'd do it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Norbert Sándor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:27 PM
>> To: Tapestry users
>> Subject: Re: custom namespace
>>
>> I use many such component libraries which means that because of this
>> issue, many libraries must be specified "by hand".
>> Not a big problem, just tried to avoid it :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Norbi
>>
>> Geoff Longman wrote:
>> > Yes, that's true. But is that really a problem? Contrib has the same
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > Geoff
>> >
>> > On 6/15/06, Norbert Sándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> This means that I must force the user of my component library to
>> define
>> >> my library with a fix alias in the .application file.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Norbi
>> >>
>> >> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
>> >> > You mean like contrib or tacos? I think the namespace name can
>> be tied
>> >> > to a
>> >> > .library file via your .application configuration. (this I'm
>> less sure
>> >> > of as
>> >> > the best solution)
>> >> >
>> >> > On 6/14/06, Norbert Sándor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> By default there are 2 namespaces: framework and application.
>> >> >> How can I define my own, custom namespace?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Norbi
>> >> >>
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