I agree with Kalle. Open source can't live only from enthusiasm.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Kalle Korhonen
<kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Could it be that Tapestry doesn't have a lack of committers/commits
> but just one super productive committer? The truth is that most
> open-source projects are slowly evolving, because very few people are
> in that fortunate position that they can devote most of their time on
> working on things they like.
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Ivano Luberti<lube...@archicoop.it>
> wrote:
> > No problem.
> >
> > igor.drobia...@gmail.com ha scritto:
> >> Sorry Ivano,
> >>
> >> I misunderstood you.
> >>
> >> On Jun 22, 2009 2:10pm, Ivano Luberti <lube...@archicoop.it> wrote:
> >>> Igor I was not pointing out the behaviour of any individual neither I
> >>
> >>> was trying to provoke anyone.
> >>
> >>> If you are one of the committers what kind of shame can be on you ?
> >>
> >>> I'm simply surprised by lack of committers (comparing with other OS
> >>
> >>> projects), not saying that the ones that actually are committers are
> >>
> >>> doing a bad work.
> >>
> >>> This is also the reason why I submitted my question to Howard and not
> to
> >>
> >>> the entire mailing list: I posted it to the ml, because I think the
> >>
> >>> answer can be of public interest.
> >>
> >>> I have read again my message , still cannot find the reason of this
> >>
> >>> incomprehension.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> igor.drobia...@gmail.com ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> > Dear Ivano,
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > I don't feel I need to justify myself but I'll answer to your
> >>
> >>> > provoking question.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > I can't speak for alle the committers but I commit the code to
> >>
> >>> > Tapestry in my leisure.
> >>
> >>> > Usually I commit to Tapestry after I worked 8-10 hours for my
> company.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > Right now I'm writing a Tapestry book which is already discussed in
> >>
> >>> > another thread.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/3827328446/ref=s9_sims_gw_s10_p14_t1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1HYXTCYBKSQAC48YC077&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375193&pf_rd_i=301128
> >>>
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > I believe this book is the most important contribution to Tapestry I
> >>
> >>> > ever made.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > Furthermore I spend my free time to promote Tapestry. For example
> this
> >>
> >>> > week in Essen
> >>
> >>> > See here:
> >>
> >>> >
> http://www.ruhrjug.de/vorschau/details/10-tapestry-mit-igor-drobiazko
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > So please don't tell me it is a shame.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > Best regards
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> > On Jun 20, 2009 2:07pm, Ivano Luberti lube...@archicoop.it> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >> Howard, it seems to me that Tapestry has really few committers and
> is
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> mainly driven by one man.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> It is a shame for a so beautiful piece of software.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> What is the reason ?
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> Simply the typical lack of funding ? Or is a more or less choice
> made
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> by you for whatever reason.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> Howard ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > Just got back last night from training in Madison WI. This was
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > primarily an intro to Tapestry 5 for Tapestry 4 developers (and a
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > couple of new-to-web-programming developers) and a lot of hands on
> >>
> >>> >> pair
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > programming to get them going with their conversion work. It was
> >>> a lot
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > of fun, and as usual, I learned a bit.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > I have a couple of weeks respite now before OSCON which will be
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > followed with training in York, UK, then Estonia, then London.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > I'm continuing to hold off on code changes to Tapestry 5, though
> >>> I hit
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > enough minor annoyances that I'm considering a 5.1 bug fix release
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > before starting 5.2 in earnest.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > I have a backlog of work related to Tapestry360 and then my main
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > emphasis is going to be Documentation, Screencasts, Articles,
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > Documentation and Documentation, plus some additional
> >>
> >>> >> Documentation. It
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > may be a while before I start with new features for 5.2.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> >
> >>
> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > --
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> >>> >
> >>
> >>> >> > Posted By Howard to Tapestry Central at 6/12/2009 12:56:00 PM
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> >>> >> --
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Igor Drobiazko

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