On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Alessandro Bottoni
<alexbott...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a very good example of what is probably missing in Tapestry, at
> least from the point of view of a new user.
>
> Is this technique documented somewhere?
> Is this demonstrated by some existing archetype or demo app?
> Is this part of any Maven archetype or of any "canonical" way of
> developing applications with Tapestry.
> Is this approach "advertised" somewhere on the Tapestry web site?
[..]
> Maybe a Tapestry 5 component/module would be a good general-purpose
> solution for this Authentication/Authorization common need. Maybe even a
> HowTo or a demo would be enough. At least, they could be a solution for
> 80% of the applications (the ones that uses the approach proposed by
> ACEGI/Spring Security, BTW).
>
> Maybe Tapestry does not need the dozens of components that are available
> for other frameworks, like Wicket, but it surely need some ready-to-use,
> standard solutions for a few very diffused, very standard needs like
> authentication and access control.

Did you have a look at the ChenilleKit project?

>> In other words, jumping over backwards for integrations with
>> technologies is often not the best approach. Yes, it would be nice to
>> have a checkbox "compatible with Spring Security" but I'd rather talk
>> about how easy it is to create your own custom extensions that work
>> precisely as you need.
[..]
> Even better, it would be fantastic to have a Maven archetype switch to
> enable the access control subsystem generation. Even better again, this
> could/should be supplied by derived works, like Tynamo (and it will, as
> long as I know). This would keep T5 as simple as possible while still
> supplying the user with a rich feature set.
>
> Tynamo and AppFuse are extremely important for Tapestry for many reasons
> and one of those reasons is "standardization". As a new user, I expect
> to find a canonical way to develop Tapestry/Tynamo applications and a
> canonical set of tools. This because I do not want, and  cannot, spend a
> few weeks trying to discover the right tools and the right design
> patterns to be used for the task at hand by myself. As a quite typical
> new user, I need /guidance/ as well, not just a toolbox.

I think you're completely missing the point.

Cheers
-- 
Massimo
http://meridio.blogspot.com

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