Whoops, i meant:

> Yep... that's why some people think jsf is nice

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Everton Agner Ramos


2010/11/11 Everton Agner <ton.ag...@gmail.com>

> > The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
>
> I like C# specifically... but I don't trade java for it. Specially because
> most of the things i like about C# will exist in java soon. I like knowing
> all the sides of the force :P
>
>
>
> > That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
> it couldn't use some tooling. :)
>
> Yep... that's why people think jsf is nice, because it's a forced standart
> and people make all kinds of tools for it.
>
>
>
> > That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
> Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best
> > Java framework yet. :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't
> read English, so any tool that has Portuguese documentation
> > or books tend to be more used than others.
>
> True. And most of the developers who know english are too lazy to read. lol
>
>
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> Everton Agner Ramos
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> 2010/11/11 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <thiag...@gmail.com>
>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:14:29 -0200, Everton Agner <ton.ag...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Yeah, and that's the huge step i mentioned after that! After Tap, I saw
>>> some things about JSF but i find it too boring and overcomplicated in some
>>> basics to work with...
>>>
>>
>> That's my impression with JSF too . . .
>>
>>
>>  And recently i'm working on a .net architecture with
>>> asp.netwebforms,
>>>
>>
>> The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
>>
>>
>>  Tapestry code is just simple and readable most of the times.
>>> But, some tools to make some things faster wouldn't hurt, also.
>>>
>>
>> That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
>> it couldn't use some tooling. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>  Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
>>>>
>>> it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers
>>>
>>>> Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can
>>>> still
>>>>
>>> be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as it is.
>>>
>>> Great! If you need my help on anything just ask, amigo. It will be a
>>> great tool for converting many brazilian developers to Tap :)
>>>
>>
>> That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
>> Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best Java framework yet.
>> :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't read English, so any tool
>> that has Portuguese documentation or books tend to be more used than others.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
>> and instructor
>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
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