I didn't mean to start an egg throwing contest with anyone, just thought it was a good idea to bring up for discussion.

I appreciate all the comments and opinions, hopefully something comes of it even if it's just a few more people monitoring the SO list.

I won't post again on the topic because I have nothing more to say.

cheers, p.

On 25/11/2010 8:22 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
But registering with StackOverflow or a forum is OK or what?

On 25.11.2010 10:19, Paul Stanton wrote:
"I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing lists. "

you are missing the point. they probably haven't been asked on the ml because the user doesn't want to register/subscribe/manage the ml. some people have a general aversion to ml's.

p.

On 25/11/2010 7:07 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
I don't see why those questions can't be asked and answered on the mailing lists.

If you want to ask or answer questions on stackoverflow, do it. If you want to create a forum that's fine too. But the only *official* help source will be the mailing lists. Everything else
will just partition the community.

Uli

On 25.11.2010 02:12, Paul Stanton wrote:
Andreas,

Agreed 100%.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/tapestry
or as a feed:
http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag/tapestry

Maybe the tapestry site can leverage stackoverflow as it's recommended question/answer forum?

To work however, this would require some of the people here to take interest.....

p.

On 25/11/2010 11:41 AM, Andreas Andreou wrote:
You're probably right on the reasons, but the thing is that it's a pain having to monitor multiple sources of user feedback - there's just never enought free
time to do so.

And there's also a few big risks:
1) Making the community appear to be unresponsive
2) Frustrating users who never get their questions answered
3) Spreading the info to multiple places is hard to update
and easy to get obsolete

So, anyway, Tapestry has the mailing list, its website/documentation and there's always StackOverflow. Perhaps it makes sense to define a strategy on how to take
advantage of that last one though

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 01:36, Paul Stanton<p...@mapshed.com.au> wrote:
it did. it's still there but doesn't have the community.

the reason it dies was twofold:

1. it was very spam prone: the way it was set up did not do enough to
limit/kill spammers
2. it did not get the tapestry community support - it was not even
acknowledged by the tapestry site

that's not to say a forum wouldn't work if setup and supported by the core
tapestry community.

p.

On 25/11/2010 8:18 AM, Robert Zeigler wrote:
Tapestry had a forum for awhile. I think it died.

Robert

On Nov 24, 2010, at 11/244:46 AM , Paul Stanton wrote:

i know most of you guys, who have been using ml for so long probably
prefer ml, that's not the point!

i guarantee there's a number of users who don't want to configure their
inbox for ml and give up.

just a thought, if no one can see the benefit i guess it isn't going to
happen!

i use stackoverflow a lot and attempt to answer or contribute to most
tapestry questions.

p.

On 24/11/2010 8:35 PM, Ivano Luberti wrote:
I prefer ml to forums and in nay case ML web archives allow to search
them.
I cannot see any other advantage of a forum over a ml.

Il 24/11/2010 4.56, Paul Stanton ha scritto:
how about adding a forum?

personally i prefer forums to mailing lists, and i believe a lot of people don't participate in this 'user-group' community and therefore
don't get help and therefore don't like tapestry...

if you want to attract more users i recommend this.

p.

On 20/11/2010 8:15 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
We're still working out the kinks ... and I've been working hard on
revising
the tutorial ... but at long last, we're debuting the new Tapestry
Web Site:

http://tapestry.apache.org/

Feedback is encouraged; just post to users@tapestry.apache.org with
[SITE]
in the subject.

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