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From: "David Tonhofer, m-plify S.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: From Java to C#, ASP.NET [Off Topic]
David Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
My conclusion between the two (now that .NET 2.0 has shipped) is:
Portable - java
Otherwise - .NET. A lot of the .NET advantage comes from the fact
that the
entire stack is from Microsoft so it all just works and is easy to
use.
Thanks - dave
S'probably the truth. Maybe Microsoft will open up once Bill & Steve
have
kicked the bucket. Would do them some good.
Another 2c: When doing Java, you may want to stay clear of J2EE. I
have
heard it's the Wooly Mammoth framework and I have so far worked
happily
without it. I recommend a look at Bruce Tate's pamphlet here:
I agree whole heartedly. The Bruce Tate book along with Rod Johnson's,
"Expert One-on-One J2EE Development without EJB" are indications of
many Java developers' overall dissatisfaction with the ponderous,
unnecessarily overbearing beast that is J2EE. My own feel is that all
the Java "Enterprise APIs" that make up J2EE were more or less "bolted
on" after the core Java language was established.
Generally, I think "choice' is A Good Thing. But at a certain point too
much choice leads to fragmentation and confusion which in turn leads to
frustration, sloppiness and failed projects.
Just think about object persistence as an example....what do you use?
Hibernate? EJBs? JDO? iBatis? TopLink? Something else? Then think of
all the web related frameworks you have...Tapestry, Velocity, JSP,
Cocoon, JSTL, JSF, Struts, probably a dozen more. Now, before someone
"corrects me", I realize there is not always a perfect overlap between
all these projects. I realize that some of them are "complimentary" to
others.
Java, the core language, is good (although, as I mentioned in the
original post, I think C# is a bit better). There's no doubt in my mind
that C# and .NET benefited from Java and J2EE, just as Boeing and
McDonnell Douglas benefited from the work of the Wright Brothers.
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