Hibernate is not J2EE "based".  It just so happens it provides a EJB-free
solution to a servlet container environment.  Hibernate does not require
J2EE. 

Tim

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From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:04 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: From Java to C#, ASP.NET [Off Topic]

On 1/30/06, Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
>
> | On 1/29/06, David Tonhofer, m-plify S.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > Another 2c: When doing Java, you may want to stay clear of J2EE. I 
> | > have heard it's the Wooly Mammoth framework and I have so far 
> | > worked happily without it. I recommend a look at Bruce Tate's pamphlet
here:
> | >
> | > <http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/bfljava/>
> | >
> |
> | Stay clear of J2EE? Not really possible, especially with your book 
> | recommendation, hibernate and spring are heavily J2EE based. Or did 
> | you mean EJB?
>
> How are they "J2EE based"?
>

JDBC is part of J2EE. JTA is part of J2EE. Servlets are part of J2EE.
And spring states itself as:

Welcome to the home of the Spring Framework.  As the leading full-stack
Java/J2EE application framework, Spring delivers significant benefits for
many projects, reducing development effort and costs while improving test
coverage and quality.


> Regards,
> Endre.
>

Leon

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