Please don't think it's the whole Tomcat community Dean, there are some really helpful devs on Tomat, it's just Remy in particular has a problem being polite/arrogant about Tomcat - I guess from his privileged point of view he understands everything about Tomcat and therefore does not understand what usability is all about.
All the best, AC. -----Original Message----- From: Dean Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2006 11:39 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: tomcat 5.0 vs. 5.5? tomcat 5.5 has been bad! wow! you guys sound pretty harsh when it comes to messages to help users on simple mistakes then. I recently dropped in someone else's example app war file that had the SAME PROBLEM.....latest facelets. I could not even give back information to help them debug the problem. It was standard tomcat 5.5.16. It worked on 5.0 just fine. I now know that I need to unzip their war file, remove log4j(and maybe even hope that they are using commons, because if they are not, I may be utterly screwed). Then I need to redeploy their app. I need to do all this because tomcat is unwilling to give good helpful messages as to what is going on(as seen by all the other posts that have had trouble figuring out their problems behind that error with no reponses either.....I was the lucky one and finally figured out what was wrong). I can only hope others can find my solution post without wasting too much time. later, dean Remy Maucherat wrote: >On 3/30/06, Markus Schönhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>The RuntimeException is to make it more noticeable in the logs. I mean >>>953 hits on googling is quite alot of people having trouble. Would >>>be nice to cut that number down with an easy log statement that >>>tomcat could add!!! >>> >>> >>Well, if it's really that easy you should definitely provide a patch. >> >> > >I recommend not wasting time, as I would refuse such a nonsensical >patch. The actual worakround is to learn how to properly use logging, >which seems to be a useful skill. > >-- >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Rémy Maucherat >Developer & Consultant >JBoss Inc >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="VERDANA,ARIAL" COLOR=BLUE> ------------------------------------------------------- QAS Ltd. Registered in England: No 2582055 Registered in Australia: No 082 851 474 ------------------------------------------------------- </FONT> <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="VERDANA,ARIAL" COLOR=BLACK> Disclaimer: The information contained within this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. This email is intended solely for the named recipient only; if you are not authorised you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error please contact the sender at once so that we may take the appropriate action and avoid troubling you further. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. QAS Limited has the right lawfully to record, monitor and inspect messages between its employees and any third party. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as QAS Limited deems to be necessary in order to protect its information, its interests and its reputation. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard Inbound and Outbound emails, QAS Limited cannot guarantee that attachments are virus free or compatible with your systems and does not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. </FONT> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]