It's better to have too much Java than too much XML :)
I think that's one of the consequences in using Wicket
On 11/16/07, Joe Toth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree with the "Too much java" statement. Sometimes you have to
> create a bunch of stuff that would be a lot easier to do in a velocity
> template. It only takes a couple of seconds more to do it, but it just
> makes everything 'seem' bigger.
>
>
> Example would be a link on a table...
>
>
> columns.add(new LinkPropertyColumn(new Model("Delivery"), new
> Model(
> "change")) {
> @Override
> public Link createLink(final Item item, String
> componentId,
> final IModel model) {
> return new Link(componentId) {
> @Override
> public void onClick() {
> ReportStatistic
> reportStatistic = (ReportStatistic) model
> .getObject();
> DraftProduct draft =
> productService
>
> .getDraftProduct(reportStatistic.getReportId());
> setResponsePage(new
> ReportDelivery(draft));
> }
> };
> }
> });
>
>
> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 15:02 -0800, Alexis wrote:
> > Pros :
> > * Statefull
> > * Steady features (simple Ajax built-in, validation, ...)
> > * Can do simple stuff quickly without knowing the internals (good for java
> > developpers without web experiences)
> >
> > Cons :
> > * Not stateless (i'm talking about the stable 1.2 here)
> > * Too much alternatives to do quite the same things (markup inheritance vs
> > borders; passing component's constructors models, full objects or even
> > components; ListView vs DataView vs GridView ...)
> > * TOO MUCH JAVA and too component oriented: in fact on some pages you need
> > to create some components (panels, fragment, or inner classes) to write
> > maintenable code whereas these components will never be reused elsewhere. In
> > general you need some effort and focus to produce maintenable code on not so
> > complex pages / components, this is my biggest con.
> >
> >
> > Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> > >
> > > Pros:
> > > * elegant solutions to problems using object oriented programming are
> > > possible again
> > > * unspoiled (by model2 framework) graduates can create complex UI's
> > > almost instantly
> > > * you actually need to engage your brain at times
> > > * custom component creation is *really* easy: just use extends (tm)
> > >
> > > Cons:
> > > * single threaded model for responding to client actions: a lot is
> > > sync'd on the pagemap
> > > * you actually need to engage your brain at times
> > > * getting to know the internals can be quite challenging as it is a
> > > complex beast
> > > * too easy to create complex UI's that show the world and then some
> > > * sometimes the limitations of HTML/the web leak into the wicket
> > > world, making it tougher for new web developers as they are presented
> > > with quite an abstraction (keeping state in forms across requests in
> > > tabbed panels)
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > > On 11/15/07, mraible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> FWIW, I'd like to replace the pros and cons (my opinions) with some that
> > >> are
> > >> more accurate. As users of Wicket, I'd love to hear from you and get your
> > >> opinions on the top 3 pros and cons of Wicket.
> > >>
> > >> Here's the ones I currently have:
> > >>
> > >> Pros:
> > >>
> > >> * Great for Java developers, not web developers
> > >> * Tight binding between pages and views
> > >> * Active community - support from the creators
> > >>
> > >> Cons:
> > >>
> > >> * HTML templates live next to Java code
> > >> * Need to have a good grasp of OO
> > >> * The Wicket Way - everything done in Java
> > >>
> > >> IMO, there's no need to debate whether these are valid or not. If they're
> > >> not - please suggest new ones. James Ward of Flex had a nice and honest
> > >> comment this morning pointing out Flex's cons:
> > >>
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/yvybnm
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Matt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sean Sullivan-3 wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > fyi
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> http://raibledesigns.com/rd/entry/comparing_jvm_web_frameworks_presentation
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context:
> > >> http://www.nabble.com/Matt-Raible%27s-ApacheCon-presentation-tf4815955.html#a13780071
> > >> Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>
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> > >
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