Great! Are there any demo/reference websites that run Hippo CMS or Hippo Portal?
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0100 > Von: "Frank van Lankvelt" <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: RE: Things I miss in Wicket > Sure these kinds of things exist. In Hippo CMS 7, we're nesting panels > that each have their own instance-specific configuration. Different > document types have a corresponding (admittedly quite simple) plugin > configuration that can be edited within the cms. The cms itself is > mostly a (more involved) configuration of such loosely-coupled generic > panels. > > This approach is actually opposite to Wickets philosophy (only Java + > HTML). But the great thing about combining opposites is that there is a > sliding scale for doing things. You can start out using the generic > building blocks, giving you limited flexibility in terms of how these > panels can interact, but at least they can be easily configured using a > web interface. Then, as your needs transcend the possibilities of this > simplistic solution, you can write your own plugins with the full power > of Wicket at your disposal. > > Cheers, Frank > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tobias Marx [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 16 January 2009 14:10 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > > > > Brix only works the way it works because it does not need a > > database......with a flexible achitecture and a database this > > would not be possible without too many limitations either. > > > > The ultimate goal would be a web-application builder...or at > > least a highly configurable website (whatever kind of) that > > only needs to be written once and can be customized easily > > without "changing" the code. > > > > So far this does not exist....the thing that comes closed is > > Typo3, Drupal or something like that...or the Dolphin > > community builder - but this is all at a very early stage and > > so far starting from scratch is often the better option in > > the long-term. > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:59:11 -0500 > > > Von: Richard Allen <[email protected]> > > > An: [email protected] > > > Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I don't like about Wicket is, that it is like writing normal > > > > Java applications - although rich clients applications are being > > > > replaced > > > with > > > > web-based solutions and there is a fundamental difference between > > > > web-applications and normal java applications. If you have a java > > > > application as a product, it is normal to employ software > > developers > > > that > > > > work on bug fixes and new features all the time - they constantly > > > develop > > > > and it is expensive....everything has to be done by a software > > > developer. > > > > > > > > > Being more like a "normal" Java application (whatever that is :) is > > > precisely why some of us like Wicket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is > > > > never touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new > > > > features necessary.... but in this time there could be > > several small > > > > changes or complete re-designs...and in that time this > > should be a > > > > pure matter of HTMLing without the need of touching the > > Java code. > > > > If a new input field > > > is > > > > added or some new strings.....or whatever....or maybe a new Flash > > > component > > > > etc....this should still work without changing the -war file that > > > carries > > > > the Java code...only changes in the templates or the > > database should > > > > be made. > > > > > > > > > This sounds quite unrealistic to me for most applications. > > But I think > > > a CMS (such as Brix: http://code.google.com/p/brix-cms/) > > comes close > > > to what you are asking for if I understand what you are > > trying to get > > > at. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wicket does does not really allow this. Or assume you have a > > > > web-application you want to sell - and don't want the customer to > > > > know Java....they would be really restricted in the > > changes that are > > > possible. > > > > Another advantage of Wicket is that it creates a session > > for every > > > visitor > > > > - no matter whether it is a crawler/search engine that > > does not need > > > > a session or a logged in user.... > > > > > > > > > Again, a CMS. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > [email protected] www.onehippo.com > Amsterdam Hippo B.V. 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