Be careful using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia also recommends the incorrect pronunciation of kilometer.
Mark On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, <cont...@metricpioneer.com> wrote: > The beauty of the International System of units or SI after its French > initials is that one has the option to dispense with ever having to use any > word for any number higher than thousand on the scale, which thankfully has > only one definition everywhere on Earth. See snippet in context here: > http://metricpioneer.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/long-scale-and-short-scale-how-much-is-a-billion-it-depends-where-you-live/ > > ----- Message from "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> --------- > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:55:17 -0700 > From: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> > Reply-To: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [USMA:54128] RE: Don't be a dunce! > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > > On groupings, I see Wikipedia specifies the comma as a thousands > separator but allows the space in scientific/engineering articles. Nowhere > do they require the space as a thousands separator with SI units. In my > opinion, the comma should NOT be used as a thousands separator with SI > units. > > I further notice down in the SI section they allow the word micron as a > name for 10^-6 m, although they do require the correct symbol. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Martin Vlietstra <vliets...@btinternet.com> > *To:* U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> > *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2014 8:33 AM > *Subject:* [USMA:54126] RE: Don't be a dunce! > > The Wikipedia standards can be seen at > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mosnum. Leading zeros are > required except for gun calibres and [baseball] averages. > > > > *From:* owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] *On > Behalf Of* Michael Payne > *Sent:* 14 July 2014 06:19 > *To:* U.S. Metric Association > *Cc:* USMA > *Subject:* [USMA:54122] RE: Don't be a dunce! > > I’m not saying you should change formats in your job, but it would be good > if an organization like Wikipedia which is read worldwide, could adhere to > what is an internationally recommended standard instead of the de-facto US > format for numbers. > > If this were done companies like your may adapt to this standard in the > future. > > Mike Payne > > On 14 Jul 2014, at 07:03, cont...@metricpioneer.com wrote: > > > I would be fired from my job if I were to insist that we change commas > to spaces. Get a real-world perspective once in a while. I would LOVE to > live in a clean, tidy world with uniformity in such matters. I think we > would do well to pick our battles carefully. This battle is akin to Harold > insisting that Americans spell metre instead of meter. > > ----- Message from Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> --------- > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:45:05 +0200 > From: Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: metricmik...@gmail.com > Subject: [USMA:54120] RE: Don't be a dunce! > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > > I can only speak about the English language Wikipedia. Many English > speaking nations use the comma as the decimal, South Africa is one, So do > the French and probably most Europeans. It’s a cleaner way of writing and > it works for the digits on the right side of the decimal. > > Claiming Americans like their freedom is the same as saying we’ll stick > with American Customary because we’re free to. It does not help in > international trade! We need standardisation and this is one standard > recommended by NIST. > > Mike Payne > > On 14 Jul 2014, at 06:34, Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> > wrote: > > > Try checking an authoritative source, like the BIPM before insisting > Americans has some sort of derogation based on their claimed exceptionalism. > > Here is a style guide from the US construction industry: > > https://www.wbdg.org/ccb/VA/VAMETRIC/guide.pdf > > > Rules for Writing Numbers > - > Always use decimals, not fractions (write 0.75 g, not ¾g). > - > Use a zero before the decimal marker for values less than one (write 0.45 > g, not .45 g). > - > Use spaces instead of commas to separate blocks of three digits for any > number over four digits (write 45 138 kg or 0.004 46 kg or 4371 kg). Note > that this does not apply to the expression of amounts of money. > - > In the United States, the decimal marker is a period; in other countries > a comma usually is used > > > See also 5.3.4 from the NIST guide: > > http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP330/sp330.pdf > > Under what authority do you operate under that gives you the right to > break the rules? Those who want to do things their way and think they are > exceptional are the real dunces. > > > > > *From:* cont...@metricpioneer.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 2014-07-13 22:51 > *To:* U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> > *Subject:* [USMA:54114] RE: Don't be a dunce! > > Harold. Americans use commas or spaces. We love our freedom. > > ----- Message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> --------- > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:07:41 -0400 > From: Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> > Reply-To: harold_potsda...@cox.net > Subject: [USMA:54113] RE: Don't be a dunce! > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > > Not only that, commas dividing thousands which should be spaces. > > > > *From:* br...@bjwhite.net > *Sent:* Sunday, 2014-07-13 14:26 > *To:* U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> > *Subject:* [USMA:54111] RE: Don't be a dunce! > > No zeroes on the leading decimals? Tsk tsk tsk. :) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [USMA:54110] Don't be a dunce! > From: cont...@metricpioneer.com > Date: Sun, July 13, 2014 11:22 am > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> > Posted on Facebook and Twitter today: > Don't be a dunce! http://MetricPioneer.com/Metrication-America > <http://metricpioneer.com/Metrication-America> > David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com <http://www.metricpioneer.com/> > 503-428-4917 > > > > > ----- End message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> ----- > > David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com <http://www.metricpioneer.com/> > 503-428-4917 > > > > > > ----- End message from Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> ----- > David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com <http://www.metricpioneer.com/> > 503-428-4917 > > > > > > > > ----- End message from "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> ----- > > David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917 >
