The Wikipedia standards can be seen at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mosnum. Leading zeros are required
except for gun calibres and [baseball] averages.

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Of Michael Payne
Sent: 14 July 2014 06:19
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: USMA
Subject: [USMA:54122] RE: Don't be a dunce!

 

I’m not saying you should change formats in your job, but it would be good
if an organization like Wikipedia which is read worldwide, could adhere to
what is an internationally recommended standard instead of the de-facto US
format for numbers.

 

If this were done companies like your may adapt to this standard in the
future.

 

Mike Payne

 

On 14 Jul 2014, at 07:03, cont...@metricpioneer.com wrote:





I would be fired from my job if I were to insist that we change commas to
spaces. Get a real-world perspective once in a while. I would LOVE to live
in a clean, tidy world with uniformity in such matters. I think we would do
well to pick our battles carefully. This battle is akin to Harold insisting
that Americans spell metre instead of meter.

----- Message from Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> ---------
    Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:45:05 +0200
    From: Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: metricmik...@gmail.com
Subject: [USMA:54120] RE: Don't be a dunce!
      To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>

I can only speak about the English language Wikipedia. Many English speaking
nations use the comma as the decimal, South Africa is one, So do the French
and probably most Europeans. It’s a cleaner way of writing and it works for
the digits on the right side of the decimal.

 

Claiming Americans like their freedom is the same as saying we’ll stick with
American Customary because we’re free to. It does not help in international
trade! We need standardisation and this is one standard recommended by NIST.

 

Mike Payne

 

On 14 Jul 2014, at 06:34, Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> wrote:





Try checking an authoritative source, like the BIPM before insisting
Americans has some sort of derogation based on their claimed exceptionalism.

 

Here is a style guide from the US construction industry:

 

https://www.wbdg.org/ccb/VA/VAMETRIC/guide.pdf

 

 

Rules for Writing Numbers

-

Always use decimals, not fractions (write 0.75 g, not ¾g).

-

Use a zero before the decimal marker for values less than one (write 0.45

g, not .45 g).

-

Use spaces instead of commas to separate blocks of three digits for any

number over four digits (write 45 138 kg or 0.004 46 kg or 4371 kg). Note

that this does not apply to the expression of amounts of money.

-

In the United States, the decimal marker is a period; in other countries a
comma usually is used

 

 

See also 5.3.4 from the NIST guide:

 

http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP330/sp330.pdf

 

Under what authority do you operate under that gives you the right to break
the rules?  Those who want to do things their way and think they are
exceptional are the real dunces.

 

 

 

 

From: cont...@metricpioneer.com

Sent: Sunday, 2014-07-13 22:51

To: U.S. Metric Association <mailto:usma@colostate.edu> 

Subject: [USMA:54114] RE: Don't be a dunce!

 

Harold. Americans use commas or spaces. We love our freedom.

----- Message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> ---------
    Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:07:41 -0400
    From: Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net>
Reply-To: harold_potsda...@cox.net
Subject: [USMA:54113] RE: Don't be a dunce!
      To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>

Not only that, commas dividing thousands which should be spaces.

 

 

 

From: br...@bjwhite.net

Sent: Sunday, 2014-07-13 14:26

To: U.S. Metric Association <mailto:usma@colostate.edu> 

Subject: [USMA:54111] RE: Don't be a dunce!

 

No zeroes on the leading decimals?  Tsk tsk tsk.  :)
 

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Subject: [USMA:54110] Don't be a dunce!
From: cont...@metricpioneer.com
Date: Sun, July 13, 2014 11:22 am
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>

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