That's fine. I was highlighting my differences with them.
________________________________ From: Mark Henschel <mwhensch...@gmail.com> To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> Cc: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 1:40 PM Subject: [USMA:54131] RE: Don't be a dunce! Be careful using Wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia also recommends the incorrect pronunciation of kilometer. Mark On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, <cont...@metricpioneer.com> wrote: >The beauty of the International System of units or SI after its French >initials is that one has the option to dispense with ever having to use any >word for any number higher than thousand on the scale, which thankfully has >only one definition everywhere on Earth. See snippet in context here: >http://metricpioneer.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/long-scale-and-short-scale-how-much-is-a-billion-it-depends-where-you-live/ > >----- Message from "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> --------- > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:55:17 -0700 > From: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> >Subject: [USMA:54128] RE: Don't be a dunce! > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> >On groupings, I see Wikipedia specifies the comma as a thousands separator but >allows the space in scientific/engineering articles. Nowhere do they require >the space as a thousands separator with SI units. In my opinion, the comma >should NOT be used as a thousands separator with SI units. >> >>I further notice down in the SI section they allow the word micron as a name >>for 10^-6 m, although they do require the correct symbol. >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Martin Vlietstra <vliets...@btinternet.com> >>To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu> >>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 8:33 AM >>Subject: [USMA:54126] RE: Don't be a dunce! >> >> >>The Wikipedia standards can be seen at >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mosnum. Leading zeros are required >>except for gun calibres and [baseball] averages. >> >> >> >>From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of >>Michael Payne >>Sent: 14 July 2014 06:19 >>To: U.S. Metric Association >>Cc: USMA >>Subject: [USMA:54122] RE: Don't be a dunce! >> >>I’m not saying you should change formats in your job, but it would be good if >>an organization like Wikipedia which is read worldwide, could adhere to what >>is an internationally recommended standard instead of the de-facto US format >>for numbers. >> >>If this were done companies like your may adapt to this standard in the >>future. >> >>Mike Payne >> >>On 14 Jul 2014, at 07:03, cont...@metricpioneer.com wrote: >> >> >>I would be fired from my job if I were to insist that we change commas to >>spaces. Get a real-world perspective once in a while. I would LOVE to live in >>a clean, tidy world with uniformity in such matters. I think we would do well >>to pick our battles carefully. This battle is akin to Harold insisting that >>Americans spell metre instead of meter. >> >>----- Message from Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> --------- >> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:45:05 +0200 >> From: Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> >>Reply-To: metricmik...@gmail.com >>Subject: [USMA:54120] RE: Don't be a dunce! >> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> >>I can only speak about the English language Wikipedia. Many English speaking >>nations use the comma as the decimal, South Africa is one, So do the French >>and probably most Europeans. It’s a cleaner way of writing and it works for >>the digits on the right side of the decimal. >>> >>>Claiming Americans like their freedom is the same as saying we’ll stick with >>>American Customary because we’re free to. It does not help in international >>>trade! We need standardisation and this is one standard recommended by NIST. >>> >>>Mike Payne >>> >>>On 14 Jul 2014, at 06:34, Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>Try checking an authoritative source, like the BIPM before insisting >>>Americans has some sort of derogation based on their claimed exceptionalism. >>> >>>Here is a style guide from the US construction industry: >>> >>>https://www.wbdg.org/ccb/VA/VAMETRIC/guide.pdf >>> >>> >>>Rules for Writing Numbers >>>- >>>Always use decimals, not fractions (write 0.75 g, not ¾g). >>>- >>>Use a zero before the decimal marker for values less than one (write 0.45 >>>g, not .45 g). >>>- >>>Use spaces instead of commas to separate blocks of three digits for any >>>number over four digits (write 45 138 kg or 0.004 46 kg or 4371 kg). Note >>>that this does not apply to the expression of amounts of money. >>>- >>>In the United States, the decimal marker is a period; in other countries a >>>comma usually is used >>> >>> >>>See also 5.3.4 from the NIST guide: >>> >>>http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP330/sp330.pdf >>> >>>Under what authority do you operate under that gives you the right to break >>>the rules? Those who want to do things their way and think they are >>>exceptional are the real dunces. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>From: cont...@metricpioneer.com >>>Sent: Sunday, 2014-07-13 22:51 >>>To: U.S. Metric Association >>>Subject: [USMA:54114] RE: Don't be a dunce! >>> >>>Harold. Americans use commas or spaces. We love our freedom. >>> >>>----- Message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> --------- >>> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:07:41 -0400 >>> From: Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> >>>Reply-To: harold_potsda...@cox.net >>>Subject: [USMA:54113] RE: Don't be a dunce! >>> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> >>>Not only that, commas dividing thousands which should be spaces. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: br...@bjwhite.net >>>>Sent: Sunday, 2014-07-13 14:26 >>>>To: U.S. Metric Association >>>>Subject: [USMA:54111] RE: Don't be a dunce! >>>> >>>>No zeroes on the leading decimals? Tsk tsk tsk. :) >>>> >>>>-------- Original Message -------- >>>>>Subject: [USMA:54110] Don't be a dunce! >>>>>From: cont...@metricpioneer.com >>>>>Date: Sun, July 13, 2014 11:22 am >>>>>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu> >>>>>Posted on Facebook and Twitter today: >>>>>Don't be a dunce! http://MetricPioneer.com/Metrication-America >>>>>David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917 >>> >>> >>> >>>----- End message from Harold_Potsdamer <harold_potsda...@cox.net> ----- >>> >>>David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917 >>> >> >> >> >>----- End message from Michael Payne <metricmik...@gmail.com> ----- >>David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917 >> >> > > > >----- End message from "John M. Steele" <jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net> ----- > > >David Pearl www.MetricPioneer.com 503-428-4917
