This is the story I hear from every single club president and officer I have ever talked to. Has anyone ever heard a positive report about the BYUSA clubs organization? Why does this institution continue to exist? Can anyone share an insight here?

--Dave

Ben Smith wrote:

I'm president of two clubs on campus. One is departmental and one is BYUSA.
I strongly dislike BYUSA.  The clubs VP last year told me that the primary
value that BYUSA can provide my clubs is to show us how to really party and
have fun. The mandatory meetings are invariably a waste of my time.

The one thing that BYUSA does offer though, is accessibility for
advertising. It is *much* more challenging to advertise across campus when
you're a departmental club. Otherwise, I would have removed yMac from BYUSA
long ago. I have tried to talk them into granting my other club advertising
rights, in light of the service it provides, but to no avail.

-Ben


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Last year, the BYU Sailing Club had to make that transition.  We are now
a club under the engineering department.  The effects for the sailing
club were nothing but positive.  Scheduling is the same: our officers
don't have to go to BYUSA meetings, less restrictions on fundraising, no
mandatory service requirements, and so on.  The biggest requirement is
getting an advisor who is in the department.

Organizing under a department does nothing to limit the membership to
students from that department, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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Stuart Jansen wrote:


On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 22:34, Jayce^ wrote:

- get the club out of BYUSA


Wouldn't that just be PLUG :)


No, but it bears some discussing. The most likely option is trying to
become a CS department club. I worry a little about that, but having
dealt with BYUSA I don't want to stay where we are.


Hmmm...  Anyone remember that BYUSA-president campaign a while back
where they promised to get rid of the BYU-approved housing policy?
(Hint for those who don't remember:  they had to withdraw their
candidacy when it was discovered there was no way they could ever make
good on their promise.)

My question: is it possible to get the club out of BYUSA? If so, would

there be side effects?  (e.g. have to meet off-campus, lose funding (do
we get funding?), lose phantom.byu.edu, umm... anything else?)

I'll admit, I haven't done any homework behind these questions. I have
no idea what BYU's club policies are. Someone "in the know": what are
the pros and cons of this idea?




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