Stuart Jansen wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 06:28 -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> I'll argue this. The packages that make it in to testing go through
>> just as much QA as an "enterprise" release.
> 
> Who's talking about Debian Testing? Testing is like a more stable
> version of Fedora. It might be more reliable, but it's still constantly
> shifting under you. Apples to apples would be RHEL to Debian Stable.

We're talking about package QA and testing. This happens at testing, not
stable. The whole point is for testing to become the new stable release.
After stable releases, additional release-critical bugs are fixed and
security patches are applied. But the QA happens at testing, not stable.
But before a package can even reach the testing release, they have to go
through that stringent criteria, and maintain it through the testing
cycle to become marked "stable".

Some could be said for RHEL. The package QA and testing happens before
release, not after it's been stabilized. Fedora is part of that testing,
at least from the community. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the community
doesn't get to be a part of the direct RHEL package QA. That's done
internally. Sure, fixing bugs for Fedora indirectly become part of the
next RHEL, but only Red Hat gets to do the RHEL QA.

>> Trivial, sure, but are you going to tell me that Red Hat is doing
>> quality testing on every package in the operating system?
> 
> Yes and no. No I don't claim RH is doing any extra testing for packages
> like ImageMagick or gedit. But they are doing extra testing of core
> packages like the kernel, glibc and Python.

I'm just going to put this out there to chew on. You come to your own
conclusions:

http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
http://packages.qa.debian.org/
http://lintian.debian.org/
https://buildd.debian.org/

> More importantly, they're committed to addressing bugs in that exact
> version of the package even if they're found 3 years from now. With
> Debian Testing, you can't build a server around a specific package
> version and continue to use it for years. With RHEL and Debian Stable
> you can.

...because Debian testing isn't a frozen release. It's rolling. So, I'm
not exactly sure what you're arguing here.

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