on 9/24/2000 5:12 PM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> WM is about as far away from JSP as you can get.
>
> Come on, this is getting close to sig material. ;-> Converting a WM
> application to JSP should be trivial and mechanical, though of course
> you lose the enforcement of the MVC contract... :(
Should be? Why is that? JSP is a fundamentally different technology. You
cannot embed Java code within a WM template. WM uses embedded directives and
JSP uses SGML based tag markup.
> I realize that you are an important contributor to many of the projects
> we are discussing here, (all of you are,) and am thankful that this
> stuff exists. But I really don't understand what I have done to warrant
> what I interpret to be a belittling and condescending tone that you,
> Jon, are using with me. I don't think it adds much to the discussion,
> but I guess I am an outsider here, so I will respectfully stop here on
> this particular thread.
Like I said...I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm simply asking you to
understand the facts before you try to restate them. It isn't belittling or
condescending, it is pointing out that you are not using factual statements
and asking you to go back and learn more on your own first before trying to
use factual statements.
By saying that WM and JSP are close to each other, you are simply showing me
that you are not aware of the fact that WM really in fact tries to be about
as far away from JSP as it possibly can. We often display scales of where WM
and JSP sit together and they are on the furthest sides of the scale that
you can get.
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Velocity Freemarker JSP
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Those of us who "get it" understand that JSP is a big fat fully automatic
gun that also happens to be loaded with bullets and the trigger is cocked
with which you can blow your head off.
Whereas WM/VM are simply non-automatic guns that have no bullets and no
trigger...you have to throw them pretty damn hard and with accurate aim in
order for them to kill someone.
:-)
-jon
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