Excellent!  I wouldn't want Will to be wrong. :)

I'll update the draft to propose you as our first chair.  Now, since
no one has made any other critiques/comments on it, i'm guessing it
must be good to go.  What's the next step?  Martin, do you take this
to the board for us?

On 9/15/06, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah well, why not? It would actually fulfill Wills' prediction from a few
months ago. And as you said "I have no time" is not exactly a valid
excuse around here... :-)

        Best regards
                Henning

Nathan Bubna schrieb:
> Ok, thinking about where i want to put my time here...
>
> With Velocity 1.5 approaching and a Struts 1.3.5 being declared GA
> shortly (as well as all the Struts 2 work), i want to upgrade
> VelocityStruts and try to get a VelocityTools 1.3 out this winter
> (Marino, are you out there? Can you help?)
>
> So, Henning or Will, if either of you are willing to take the first
> stint as Velocity chair; that would free up a lot more time to get
> VelocityTools up to speed.  If you're not, then i'll do it, and we
> might just have to wait a bit longer for VelocityTools 1.3.
>
> Whaddaya think?  Either of you wanna volunteer?  Henning, you started
> this TLP push; wanna take the reins first? :)
>
> On 9/13/06, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Will Glass-Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >Ha.  Knew you were going to get in trouble for doing the legwork,
>> Nathan.
>>
>> >I'd definitely support that.  Or Henning would be great too.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> If Nathan wants to do it: More power to Nathan!
>>
>>         Best regards
>>                 Henning
>>
>>
>>
>> >If we wanted to rotate it every 6 months, I'd be happy to take a turn.
>> > But maybe a little later rather than being first.
>>
>> >WILL
>>
>> >On 9/11/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Hi Nathan,
>> >>
>> >> Looks ok and I would definitely let general know (although you did
>> put this on the wiki). Also it
>> >> would be nice to see a name of the chair. Any chance of your name
>> being there ? (or you could have a
>> >> vote on that)
>> >>
>> >> Mvgr,
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Bubna wrote:
>> >> > Sorry this took so long...
>> >> >
>> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TLPVelocity
>> >> > ====================
>> >> > Establish the Apache Velocity Project
>> >> >
>> >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
>> >> > of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>> >> > establish a Project Management Committee charged with the
>> creation and
>> >> > maintenance of open-source software related to the Velocity template
>> >> > engine, for distribution at no charge to the public.
>> >> >
>> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> >> > (PMC), to be known as the "Velocity PMC", be and hereby is
>> established
>> >> > pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the Velocity PMC be and hereby is responsible for the
>> >> > creation and maintenance of software related to the Velocity
>> template
>> >> > engine; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Velocity" be and
>> hereby
>> >> > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
>> >> > of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Velocity PMC, and to
>> >> > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within
>> the
>> >> > scope of responsibility of the Velocity PMC; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
>> are
>> >> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Velocity PMC:
>> >> >
>> >> >    *
>> >> >
>> >> >      Will Glass-Husain ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> >> >    *
>> >> >
>> >> >      Geir Magnusson Jr. ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> >> >    *
>> >> >
>> >> >      Daniel L. Rall ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> >> >    *
>> >> >
>> >> >      Henning Schmiedehausen ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> >> >    *
>> >> >
>> >> >      Nathan Bubna ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> >> >    *
>> >> >
>> >> >      Marinó A. Jónsson ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> >> >
>> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX be appointed
>> to the
>> >> > office of Vice President, Velocity, to serve in accordance with and
>> >> > subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>> >> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> >> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> further
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Velocity PMC be and hereby is tasked with
>> >> > the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>> development
>> >> > and increased participation in the Velocity Project; and be it
>> further
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Velocity PMC be and hereby is tasked with
>> >> > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Jakarta Velocity,
>> >> > Velocity Tools and DVSL subprojects; and be it further
>> >> >
>> >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Jakarta
>> Velocity,
>> >> > Velocity Tools, and DVSL subprojects and encumbered upon the Apache
>> >> > Jakarta PMC are hereafter discharged.
>> >> > ====================
>> >> >
>> >> > How's it look?  Did i miss anything?  Should we ping
>> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let anyone who wants to join the
>> >> > initial PMC get on board?  Since all Jakarta committers have
>> perms for
>> >> > Velocity now, i don't want to inadvertently exclude anyone who
>> wanted
>> >> > to work on Velocity but hadn't yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 8/31/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> I assume you already saw the proposals on the jakarta wiki (for
>> slide
>> >> >> & testing), so you can use
>> >> >> those as a template :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mvgr,
>> >> >> Martin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nathan Bubna wrote:
>> >> >> > Yeah, it is.  My apologies.  I ran out of free time with
>> family in
>> >> >> > town and getting my house ready to be painted. :)  I'll try to
>> get
>> >> >> > this moving again by early next week.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 8/26/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Maybe it's time to summarize and create the official proposal ?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Mvgr,
>> >> >> >> Martin
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Martin van den Bemt wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Apologies for totally missing / ignoring / forgetting the word
>> >> >> may...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Mvgr,
>> >> >> >> > Martin
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Nathan Bubna wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On 8/26/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Huh??   The only related statement of mine was not in my
>> initial
>> >> >> >> >> proposal and is really not far from what you're saying.  I
>> quote
>> >> >> (with
>> >> >> >> >> key words emphasized),
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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