"Will Glass-Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I'd forgotten that. For the record, I think my prediction was that
>Henning would become an ASF officer sometime in the next year or two,
>which as VP of Velocity he will be.
>Anyway, the plan sounds great. We probably need a formal vote at some
>point. When is that? Nathan, I'll let you call for it at the right
>stage.
I don't have much to say to the TLP resolution because it looks
fine. Thanks Nathan for the work. Yes, we do have to cast a vote
now. I've looked into my mail archives and it seems that we can hold
this vote on velocity-dev. I'm not sure whether we must tip the
Jakarta PMC but we definitely should.
If no-one objects, I'll cast the vote sunday morning CEST (this should
give you californian types enough time to object. ;-) )
Best regards
Henning
>I suggest we think about (informal) 6 month or 1 year terms and rotate
>among involved committers. That will allow us to share the workload a
>bit. My impression this mostly involves reports to the board,
>Velocity advocacy, and general community-building activities. Not
>that one needs to be a chair to do the last two.
>Best,
>WILL
>On 9/15/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Excellent! I wouldn't want Will to be wrong. :)
>>
>> I'll update the draft to propose you as our first chair. Now, since
>> no one has made any other critiques/comments on it, i'm guessing it
>> must be good to go. What's the next step? Martin, do you take this
>> to the board for us?
>>
>> On 9/15/06, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Ah well, why not? It would actually fulfill Wills' prediction from a few
>> > months ago. And as you said "I have no time" is not exactly a valid
>> > excuse around here... :-)
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Henning
>> >
>> > Nathan Bubna schrieb:
>> > > Ok, thinking about where i want to put my time here...
>> > >
>> > > With Velocity 1.5 approaching and a Struts 1.3.5 being declared GA
>> > > shortly (as well as all the Struts 2 work), i want to upgrade
>> > > VelocityStruts and try to get a VelocityTools 1.3 out this winter
>> > > (Marino, are you out there? Can you help?)
>> > >
>> > > So, Henning or Will, if either of you are willing to take the first
>> > > stint as Velocity chair; that would free up a lot more time to get
>> > > VelocityTools up to speed. If you're not, then i'll do it, and we
>> > > might just have to wait a bit longer for VelocityTools 1.3.
>> > >
>> > > Whaddaya think? Either of you wanna volunteer? Henning, you started
>> > > this TLP push; wanna take the reins first? :)
>> > >
>> > > On 9/13/06, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> "Will Glass-Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Ha. Knew you were going to get in trouble for doing the legwork,
>> > >> Nathan.
>> > >>
>> > >> >I'd definitely support that. Or Henning would be great too.
>> > >>
>> > >> +1
>> > >>
>> > >> If Nathan wants to do it: More power to Nathan!
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards
>> > >> Henning
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >If we wanted to rotate it every 6 months, I'd be happy to take a turn.
>> > >> > But maybe a little later rather than being first.
>> > >>
>> > >> >WILL
>> > >>
>> > >> >On 9/11/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> >> Hi Nathan,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Looks ok and I would definitely let general know (although you did
>> > >> put this on the wiki). Also it
>> > >> >> would be nice to see a name of the chair. Any chance of your name
>> > >> being there ? (or you could have a
>> > >> >> vote on that)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Mvgr,
>> > >> >> Martin
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Nathan Bubna wrote:
>> > >> >> > Sorry this took so long...
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TLPVelocity
>> > >> >> > ====================
>> > >> >> > Establish the Apache Velocity Project
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> > >> >> > interests
>> > >> >> > of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
>> > >> >> > establish a Project Management Committee charged with the
>> > >> creation and
>> > >> >> > maintenance of open-source software related to the Velocity
>> > >> >> > template
>> > >> >> > engine, for distribution at no charge to the public.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>> > >> >> > (PMC), to be known as the "Velocity PMC", be and hereby is
>> > >> established
>> > >> >> > pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the Velocity PMC be and hereby is responsible for
>> > >> >> > the
>> > >> >> > creation and maintenance of software related to the Velocity
>> > >> template
>> > >> >> > engine; and be it further
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Velocity" be and
>> > >> hereby
>> > >> >> > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>> > >> >> > direction
>> > >> >> > of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Velocity PMC, and to
>> > >> >> > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within
>> > >> the
>> > >> >> > scope of responsibility of the Velocity PMC; and be it further
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
>> > >> are
>> > >> >> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Velocity PMC:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Will Glass-Husain ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > >> >> > *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Geir Magnusson Jr. ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > >> >> > *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Daniel L. Rall ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > >> >> > *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Henning Schmiedehausen ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > >> >> > *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Nathan Bubna ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > >> >> > *
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Marinó A. Jónsson ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX be appointed
>> > >> to the
>> > >> >> > office of Vice President, Velocity, to serve in accordance with and
>> > >> >> > subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws
>> > >> >> > of
>> > >> >> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>> > >> >> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>> > >> further
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Velocity PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> > >> >> > with
>> > >> >> > the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
>> > >> development
>> > >> >> > and increased participation in the Velocity Project; and be it
>> > >> further
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Velocity PMC be and hereby is tasked
>> > >> >> > with
>> > >> >> > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Jakarta Velocity,
>> > >> >> > Velocity Tools and DVSL subprojects; and be it further
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Jakarta
>> > >> Velocity,
>> > >> >> > Velocity Tools, and DVSL subprojects and encumbered upon the Apache
>> > >> >> > Jakarta PMC are hereafter discharged.
>> > >> >> > ====================
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > How's it look? Did i miss anything? Should we ping
>> > >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let anyone who wants to join the
>> > >> >> > initial PMC get on board? Since all Jakarta committers have
>> > >> perms for
>> > >> >> > Velocity now, i don't want to inadvertently exclude anyone who
>> > >> wanted
>> > >> >> > to work on Velocity but hadn't yet.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On 8/31/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> I assume you already saw the proposals on the jakarta wiki (for
>> > >> slide
>> > >> >> >> & testing), so you can use
>> > >> >> >> those as a template :)
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Mvgr,
>> > >> >> >> Martin
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Nathan Bubna wrote:
>> > >> >> >> > Yeah, it is. My apologies. I ran out of free time with
>> > >> family in
>> > >> >> >> > town and getting my house ready to be painted. :) I'll try to
>> > >> get
>> > >> >> >> > this moving again by early next week.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > On 8/26/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> Maybe it's time to summarize and create the official proposal ?
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> Mvgr,
>> > >> >> >> >> Martin
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> Martin van den Bemt wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> > Apologies for totally missing / ignoring / forgetting the
>> > >> >> >> >> > word
>> > >> >> >> may...
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> > Mvgr,
>> > >> >> >> >> > Martin
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> > Nathan Bubna wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> >> On 8/26/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> Huh?? The only related statement of mine was not in my
>> > >> initial
>> > >> >> >> >> >> proposal and is really not far from what you're saying. I
>> > >> quote
>> > >> >> >> (with
>> > >> >> >> >> >> key words emphasized),
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> >
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